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New Star Trek cast is growing.

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  1. Chuck 4

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    "Kirk, theres something in my earrrrr!!!!"

    I know not of what you speak, Pirc1 :D

    Wrath of Kahn was such a kickass flick...
     
  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Supposed leaked plot online today:

    JJ Abram’s Star Trek Story Details!
    Written by Robert Sanchez
    Sunday, 11 November 2007
    Find out when we first meet Kirk in Abram’s Trek plus alternate timelines and time travel explained! If you want to stay as spoiler free as possible this article is NOT FOR YOU!


    I can’t stress how big of a potential spoiler the following information is. If you want to remain spoiler free DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER.

    On the same token, we have not been able to get confirmation from the studio (not like we were expecting to) so for now this information is just rumor.

    We’ve got two different sources on this one. These are the same sources that gave us the intel on Karl Urban cast as Bones and Chris Hemsworth joining on. Now, they have both given us some very juicy tidbits on how this whole time travel/alternate timeline is going down.

    Last warning, Spoilers ahead!

    If I had to poll some Star Trek fans and ask them which episode of TOS (that’s The Original Series for those of you that don’t know, and by the way, if you didn’t know that you shouldn’t be reading this article, did you know Britney lost her kids? OMG) is their favorite I can guarantee you that one episode will stand out above the rest.

    Before I tell which one I have take my hat off to Bob and Alex for making an effort to keep continuity with Star Trek canon, showing an homage to the original show yet introducing Trek to whole new generation is no easy task.

    One of the most critically acclaimed episodes from TOS aired back on April 6, 1967, it was the 28th and penultimate episode of the first season of Trek.

    The episode’s name is The City on the Edge of Forever. You guys know this one, the episode where Joan Collins guest starred as Edith Keeler and the crew of the Enterprise discovers a portal through space and time. Bones (Dr. McCoy) eventually ends up messing up history and it’s up to Kirk and Spock to set things straight.

    Here is an overall plot for the original episode: On Star Date 3134.0, the Enterprise investigates temporal disturbances centered on a nearby planet. During the investigation, Dr. McCoy accidentally injects himself with an overdose of a drug, causing him to become violently paranoid. Delusional, Doctor McCoy flees from the bridge and beams down to the planet.

    Captain Kirk forms a landing party made up of two security guards, himself, Spock, Scotty, and Uhura. Spock finds that the source of the time distortions is an ancient ring of a glowing, stone-like material. The ring speaks and identifies itself as the "Guardian of Forever", explaining that it is a doorway to any time and place — with periods of history displayed in the opening. The team soon locates McCoy; however, he runs away and leaps through the portal before anyone can stop him. Suddenly, everything seems to shift and the landing party loses contact with the Enterprise. The Guardian then informs the landing party that history has just been altered and the Enterprise has disappeared because the time line change has erased it from existence. - Wikipedia

    So what does this 40 year old episode have to do with JJ Abrams’ Trek film? Again, in case you didn’t hear me the last time SPOILERS AHEAD!

    Romulans from the future, most likely TNG time frame lead by a Romulan named Nero, played by Eric Bana, finds the City on the Edge of Forever and uses the Guardian of Forever to go back in time and kill the person who has been the biggest thorn in the Romulan’s side and is crucial to the success of the Federation and Starfleet, James T. Kirk.

    Mr. Spock, played by Leonard Nimoy in the original timeline, becomes aware of Nero’s plan (not clear on the details of how he knows) and also goes back in time to protect his best friend, James Kirk. This is where the Old Spock (Nimoy) and Young Spock (Quinto) meet.

    Old Spock warns young Spock about Nero’s plans and it’s up to them to protect the future Captain Kirk and also help try to protect the timeline and the future of the Federation and Starfleet.

    This happens before Kirk and Spock form their life long friendship and bond. We have been told that there is a very cool scene where Old Spock tells the Young Spock about his friendship with Kirk, so while this may sound “illogical” (pun intended) it’s been described as very emotional.

    Hmm…does Old Spock die in this film? I honestly don’t know but I am finally getting excited about this film (despite the casting mishaps).

    Ok, so when do we see Kirk for the very first time? The first time the audience is introduced to James T. Kirk is while he is taking a certain test that Starfleet cadets are required to take, the Kobayashi Maru.

    The Kobayashi Maru scenario was an infamous no-win scenario that was part of the curriculum for command-track cadets at Starfleet Academy in the 23rd century. It was primarily used to assess a cadet's discipline, character, and command capabilities when facing an impossible situation.

    In the scenario, a cadet was placed in command of a starship on patrol near the Klingon Neutral Zone. The starship would receive a distress signal from the SS Kobayashi Maru, a civilian freighter that had been disabled in the zone after having struck a gravitic mine. If the cadet chose to enter the neutral zone in violation of treaties, the starship would be confronted by three Klingon K't'inga-class battlecruisers.

    The test was considered a no-win scenario because it was impossible for the cadet to simultaneously save the Kobayashi Maru, avoid a fight with the Klingons, and escape from the neutral zone with the starship intact.

    In the 2250s, James T. Kirk became the first (and only known) cadet to ever beat the no-win scenario. After taking the test and failing twice, Kirk took the test a third time after surreptitiously reprogramming the computer to make it possible to win the scenario.

    Kirk got a commendation for "original thinking", and later commented wistfully that his stunt "had the virtue of never having been tried." Kirk would later defend his "cheating" by arguing that he didn't believe in the no-win scenario. Ironically, Kirk also defended the test itself by suggesting "how we face death is at least as important as how we face life.” - Memory Alpha

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  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    The Original Star Trek episodes were awesome.....
    Not sure about Kirk in this one
     
  4. tinman

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    that's cause you think that the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many.
     
  5. emjohn

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    I've come to understand that this film is getting a slight red flag due to the timing of the Writer's Guild strike. In the least, the concern is that it'll be shoved/rushed through without getting its necessary due of rewrites, etc.

    Hopefully it's good, but who knows. If this flops, the franchise may be done for another decade.

    Evan
     
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    ... or the one.
     
  7. JaWindex

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    Would Sylar be Spock if it weren't for Heroes?
     
  8. Mango

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    They are going to really have to jump around quite a bit on the Star Trek timeline to piece this together. Christopher Pike was in the first season and Chekov was in the second season.
     

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