Wow! There sure is a helluva lot of product placement there...at least 12 products in that shot alone: Kool Aid Mountain Dew XBox Pepsi ESPN Dell Samsung Activision Wal Mart arnette FX tld With that kind of revenue they oughta drop their friggin' ticket prices. -- droxford
I still hate the batsuit. I just KNOW they could have done better than ANOTHER black rubber turd. The mask is really crappy. I'll wait for the DVD on that one. *shrug* Fantastic Four looks fantastically crappy. Not a decent actor amongst them, and Reed Richards looks 17. At least Dr. Doom looks right, but he still looks corny as hell. This movie's going to be a Daredevil-esque floooooop. Sin City looks pretty damn good, however. Lookin' forward to V for Vendetta too.
It's my understanding they tried different styles, but felt it was best to use the foam rubber again.
I understand that they like the rubber because they can airbrush lighting and musculature on to it. But the Spider-man costume is made of the same junk and looks about 30 times better. I know it's not the easiest thing in the world to make a cool-looking superhero costume, I just don't think they did such a great job with this one, especially since it's just another copy of the Tim Burton suit.
Yeah i saw the latest Sin City trailer and now I'm officially hooked...Batman is gonna be great...it's freakin Chris Nolan and Christian Bale and Liam Neeson and Morgan Freeman, how can it not?! But FF... that's looking pretty bad... case in point, the part from the trailer where Thing lands in front of a semi and it crushes around him....well if you saw Constantine you'll see a very similar sequence done MUCH MUCH BETTER. FF is just looking really cheesy, like Captain America cheesy.
Hippie: I know what you mean about the suit, but I've mostly gotten over my disappointment with the similarity to the old ones. They're trying to make Batman realistic -- their version of 'You will believe a man can fly' -- and that's a tall order. I'm pretty sure the rubber is functional in this case (in the moviemaking and in the narrative) -- that it's meant to represent a kind of fighting armor. If they put him in a Spidey style suit, he'd be a sitting duck. Spiderman's got superpowers, Batman doesn't. In the case of the Spiderman suit, the rubber IS to sell the musculature; Batman's suit isn't cut up to sell real muscles. It's cut to suggest state of the art fighting 'armor.' If they put him in a less flexible armor, he wouldn't be able to fight. A number of changes have been made to the comic book costume to sell the realism and I wasn't crazy about any of them to begin with (the subtle chest logo, the clip on cape, the amended gloves, the one color theme, and most of all the cut 'muscles'), but if that's the trade off to make Batman believeable, and if it actually works, I'll forgive all of it. This Batman can apparently have a believable fight scene. He can, for example, turn his head without turning his whole body. The more I realize the suit is the way it is for those reasons, the more I not only forgive it but like it. I disagree with you about Doom. I don't think he looks authentic. I think he looks like a cheap action figure. He could have looked bad ass. The Thing is beyond horrible. There's a stupid looking rubber suit for you. You can actually see the fat rolls. And where is his signature brow?? Alba is all wrong for Sue Richards and so is the guy playing Reed. Johnny Storm is too, but his look is less iconic anyway so it's not as big a deal. That movie just looks utterly charmless. And I used to LOVE the FF. Before my house burned down in 6th grade, FF #3 (first Fantasti-Car, first costumes, first Baxter Building) was my pride and joy.
There's not as much cgi in Spider-Man as you might think. On the 2-disc Spider-Man 2 disc there is a fairly long and involved documentary on the creation of the Spidersuit. Believe me when I tell you that it is the exact same stuff they use to make the Batsuit and both Spider-man movies utilize the suit in much more complex stunts than in any of the previous Batman flicks. Jonesy: I understand that the suit is meant to resemble armor. I don't think it does. I think it resembles foam rubber. I understand that it's nearly impossible to make a realistic and functional Batsuit, and I can't claim to know the best way to go about trying. I don't think the suit is so bad that it will hurt the film (unlike the Thing suit-- yeech.) It's cool that the suit is more mobile-- the head-turning thing was kind of a pet peeve-- I just wish they could have experimented with mixing materials to create something that resembled both armor AND somthing that could actually be worn. As far as your FF criticisms, completely agree except on Doom. The armor is kind of dull, but Dr. Doom looks like an action figure in the comics, too, and after reports indication that +SPOILER* He GROWS his armor after being bombarded with cosmic rays *END SPOILER* I was worried they'd just totally **** him up. At least he's INSTANTLY recognizable as Doom. Not that I'll be seeing that flick.
