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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mjharleem22, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

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    Shane got re-injured by pushing it too hard in rehab, that is a massive difference, don't you think?

    Yeah, after a few posters brought this up I agree...still should have gone in one of the other Tmac threads, but you make a good point.

    DD
     
  2. BimaThug

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    DD, what would you define as "better pieces"? And do these better pieces include the prospect of salary cap flexibility in 2010? In other words, do you see the pieces actually received in the trade being combined with a free agent to together comprise the "Aggregate T-Mac Replacement", so to speak?

    For the millionth time, I will reiterate to people less informed than DD (who I know realizes this), but if the team jettisons T-Mac this season or next summer, the Rockets will be VERY hard-pressed to bring back a team in 2010-11 comprised of as much talent as even a 70% McGrady plus the rest of the current roster. In order to bring in an outside free agent as talented as a healthy T-Mac, the Rockets would likely need to say goodbye to Scola, Lowry and Hayes.

    Personally, if a healthy Tracy McGrady returns to the Houston Rockets, I would prefer to keep this team together, re-sign McGrady and use the MLE on another significant contributor. Sure, T-Mac has been a prima donna on occasion, and I am not a T-Mac apologist here; but I also realize that, from a pure talent standpoint, a healthy McGrady is far and away the most viable option for the Rockets.
     
  3. rhester

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    Adelman will probably resign if TMac comes back and screws up 'his' offense.

    If TMac returns to form and stays healthy we will make the playoffs as a very dangerous team.
     
  4. Rocket4Life11

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    You didn't hear that Morey pretty much told REEKO_HTOWN he was not trading Tracy?
     
  5. mjharleem22

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    i though mabye it would be good to see some of mcgrady's most recent pics which happen to be in china

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  6. DaDakota

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    Bima,

    All of that is dependent upon what you get back in trade, if you get a young up and coming player who compliments Yao, and a couple of expiring deals for Tmac...great....

    It all depends on the deal.....but you would agree the team can not afford to let Tmac the asset just expire, that would not be taking advantage of the situation.

    Unless...they choose to resign him.....and want to keep his bird or S&T rights.

    I personally believe that Tmac has run his course here in Houston, many fans don't like him (just like Orlando and Toronto) and some of his teamates don't like him either.

    Therefore I think the Rockets have moved on, are not counting on Tmac in any way, but are hopeful he gets healthy enough to highlight and trade.

    That is just my .02 though...based upon pure conjecture.

    DD
     
  7. RMGEEGEE

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    Ending my argument here:

    Captain Common Sense says.... If Tracy McGrady is in fact part of the group that founded this program, he's most likely funding most of it.

    Captain Obvious says.... If McGrady is in fact one of the cornerstones and founders of this website, he would at least be put in the "ABOUT US" section. Or AT LEAST the faculty section.

    Done.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Not if he is putting his wife in there as a proxy, but you are right, I believe he is funding it.

    Probably could look up the incorporation papers if you were so inclined.

    And the people who FUND it are not necessarily the ones who RUN it.....

    DD
     
  9. got em COACH

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    I'm honor that you have my SN on your sig list :D
     
  10. Rocketboi

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    no gut....i like what im seeing
     
  11. DaDakota

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    He certainly does look to be in much better shape now than he was at any point last year.

    Let's hope his quick first step makes a comeback too.

    DD
     
  12. BrooksBall

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    What about the option of letting McGrady walk and sucking and rebuilding and acquiring talent through the draft for a few years like Portland and OKC have done?

    There are no guarantees in the draft but there are no guarantees in a re-signed 15th year vet with a curved spine and fragile body either.
     
  13. SuperMarioBro

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    It never ceases me the new ways people find to hate on McGrady... You really think he specifically requested that someone take those pictures and someone else post them up on CF.net? It's just some random PR agent or media member that's around whenever any player is working out.

    Why don't people post this kind of BS when videos of Yao shooting free throws from a chair show up?
     
  14. Raven

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    Better to rebuild than bring Tracy back, because we're not winning with Tracy, period. My hunch is that he's traded to Miami for an expiring and future first round pick. It makes sense for both teams.
     
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    Hence, my questions to you above. Let's say the Rockets trade a healthy T-Mac in exchange for a young up-and-comer and expiring garbage contracts. Assuming that the team wants to keep the rest of the current rotation of young players in place, the Rockets would likely have little to no cap room available after adding the up-and-comer's salary to the mix (even if only a small fraction of T-Mac's old salary). Morey's and Les's thought process with regard to whether or not to make that trade would likely boil down to the following:

    Option A: Young up-and-comer and likely no additional salary cap room to use

    Option B: McGrady's contract expires, and the team has salary cap flexibility

    Option C: A re-signed McGrady and the full MLE at Les Alexander's disposal (if he chooses to spend it)

    Assuming that the young up-and-comer is not an elite player (and he wouldn't be), and assuming that McGrady's healthy (I know, a big if), I'll take Option C.

    The whole "relationship with the team" issue is truly a critical factor that may trump the talent issue. I think it would be truly regrettable for the parties to part like this, since it would be to each party's detriment, in my opinion. The Rockets would not get "equal value" in a trade; and McGrady's reputation would be further tarnished, which might affect what type of contract he gets next summer (a mild case of the Allen Iverson Syndrome).

    DD, my only issue with your "goal" for the McGrady Situation is that, if if if the fences can be mended (and both Tracy and the Rockets owe it to each other to try), a McGrady trade and the resulting (relative lack of) salary cap flexibility in 2010 will net a 2010-11 roster with less talent than the current one.
     
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    [​IMG]

    McGrady working hard to tryout for acrobat position with Cirque du Soleil?
     
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    So, clear this up - McG has a respectable come-back year from microfracture surgery. The following year is always supposed to be better. Thus, what contract is he offered next summer? 3/30? 2/15? MLE? More? Less?

    If McG is a gambler perhaps he should sign a 1/yr deal w/his Bird rights protected (either with Rox or in SnT).

    If McG walks and there is enough to sign the 'next big thing', who is it? Bosh? OK, where does he play (with Yao and Scola)? Someone else - whodat?
     
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    actually its number 3 and drowsy eyes
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Assuming the roster.

    A. stays the same

    and

    B. None of the young players get better.

    DD
     
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    A re-signed McGrady with the full MLE if he is health? Does this like a dream? He could do it if you give him a five or more year contract, but that is not good for the rockets. We all know that Attest got mad because the rockets did not give him the money he wanted. Tmac may get more mad when you have a MLE proposal on the table.
     

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