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[NEW] Lil Wayne ft Eminem- Drop The World

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by BrieflySpeaking, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. Codman

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    DOn't fret though, because the good Doc is all over the fortcoming Red Album. He and Game are back together so it should be good. Also, I've read that Game has written and produced for Detox.
     
  2. pmac

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    That was a nice take on the Em situation in hip hop. Em is a great rapper and he deserves his respect. His race really only comes into play with his record sales. If he was black he might have sold less but that doesn't change how good of a rapper he is.

    I think sometimes people get annoyed because he has Pac level success AND critical acclaim but he isn't that good. He's one of the best ever but some of the best ever don't get talked about as much as him.
     
  3. Ari

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    don't listen much any more to rap, I was more into it in my younger days, but I did take interest in it when Eminem came to the forefront, and my opinion of him has yet to change, but in fact was reinforced: he is very smart and a natural lyricist, and an even better self-promoter. His real genius was crafting his image as a disturbed White boy who is going against the grain and is beating Black rappers at their own game. That image has proven very lucrative for him since a LOT of White kids in America want to be cool, and they find refuge in rap music because it allows them to vent against their typical boring suburban lives, and a lot of them saw Eminem as one of them and ultimately their ticket into being accepted into this cool subculture represented by hip hop. Given that most of hip hop consumers are White suburban kids, and they are the ones with the actual purchasing power, Eminem was a genius talent acquisition by Dre who had to know that this crazy, controversial and out-of-control kid from Detroit was going to sell him a lot of records, and more importantly was going to finally resonate with the wider hip hop community and the even bigger tent of 'pop culture' (of which hip hop makes up a big part).

    Eminem is very talented, I just dont like his voice or his delivery, so given the presumption that you are not ranking rappers by record sales or popularity, and instead by true talent and overall package, I just cannot see how Eminem would be anywhere near the top on anyone's list. Tupac and Biggie may have been best sellers too, but they were genuinly great rappers. Other guys like Mos Def would qualify as great rap talents in spite of the fact that their commercial success is limited.

    It is all very subjective, I understand, I am sure most will disagree, but this is my own personal view.
     
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    Royce and Budden **** on everyone else in the rap game.
     
  5. Obito

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    "100 red dots on you if you wanna be a Blood for real.."
     
  7. Codman

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    I'll give Buddens the nod over Royce anyday. Slaughterhouse is nice though.
     
  8. Classic

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    I seriously doubt that is why people are a fan of eminem if they're white and a fan. It's all about perspective. Are you a fan of Biggie or Tupac because you have experience slanging on the street at 13 or gang wars? Regardless, they're all trials and tribulations in the ears of a listener. Eminem raps about things that are a bit more relatable to suburban America than the inner city--and you're right, that's huge purchasing power. While most people thought his last CD sucked, I thought it was excellent. I have lost a couple friends to pill usage and that's the first songs I've ever heard rap wise that talk about chemical dependence in a negative light and the adictive nature of pain medication. Is it for everybody? Surely not since most rappers glamorize that stuff but Eminem has spoken to the masses more than rappers you're probably a fan of that were growing up in 1999 to 2005. The record sales say that just like record sales of any artist are reflective of the acceptance of the ideas presented in the lyrics. If they speak to you, then you like it but i'm guessing you probably were growing up in the late 80's to 1995ish and you just missed Eminem's boat.
     
  9. Obito

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    9 + minutes just for Joey Button up.

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    They tryin to take me downtown put me under the court, cuz Joe Buddens told 'em I carry a gun New York, and homey that's strictly fact he got ripped on wax, so he snitched just to get me back"
     
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    When Em put his mind to it the only rappers that are better than him are dead. Buy I dont like the way hes been trying to rap lately it seen like hes trying to be a faster rapper.
     

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