Make it happen. Please! If anything hopefully this will boost the morale/confidence of Mac. What's better than being reunited with your long lost cousin? 10 years ago they both wanted to be the man and they both were for a few years. Now they're both matured and they can try and win together. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WGbWl5cjlDw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WGbWl5cjlDw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> 3:50 I'm Asian Sensation and I approve of VC reuniting with Mac for on last go around.
I really don't see how we can play much worse defense than what we have been playing. We were supposed to be a lot better defensively this season with Artest but it seems like it has got worse. If you can get Vince Carter for Artest and some other players, I say you gotta do it. Artest, Luther, Barry, and Hayes for Vince and Ager. Of course I don't see why New Jersey would do that unless they just decided that they want to cut Carter's salary and tank the season to get an even better pick. It sure would be nice though.
if this is true, then there will need to be another player(s) who needs to be traded with Artest. It could be Artest and Battier for Carter!
What exactly has Artest done to make the Rockets want to keep him? Even if he wasn't injured, he still jacks too many 3s and grinds the offense to a halt like Tracy holding the ball at the 3 point line. Who in the NBA would want to trade for T-Mac? Nobody wants T-Mac, we're not trading him this year. Right now Artest is our most valuable trade chip because of his expiring contract. T-mac is our problem for the time being.
Exactly. We wouldn't even get fifty cents on the dollar for Mac right now. The best bet is to bring Vince here and cheer him up and give him confidence. Artest has been a good teammate and a consummate professional and I thank him for that but he's just not a good fit here.
How is this going to boast his confidence when he knew ron was coming here and he still didn't get in shape.Your going to need another boaster next year and the year after that and if it does boast his confidence how long will it last.
Worst case scenario if we keep Ron is he signs elsewhere and his contract comes off the books. Not sure how we really lost anything seeing as we basically just gave up Bonzi Wells (who the previous regime had all but thrown away anyway) for Bobby Jackson for him. What exactly do we gain by acquiring another underachiever with a multiyear deal? A few more jerseys sold?
Maybe Vince will threaten to tell T-Mac's mom if he doesn't start trying harder. Even superstars hate getting grounded.
One thing that worries me is if this goes down we'll have too many 'second bananas' on this team. Yao, Vince and T-Mac are all fantastic players but not necessarily players capable of being 'the man' on a great team. Who do you go to the 4th quarter? The last possession? Who is your leader? Who can will you to win? Those are all tough questions for this group. I'm not saying great things aren't possible but I think we've all noticed this problem with our guys. Vince is no different in that regard.
i think people have become accustomed to the idea of having of Ron supposedly being the last piece to a championship puzzle, someone we really needed to get over the hump. Well, sure his toughness and defense are always needed, BUT, don't forget this team was a true contender on paper just last year. The big if has always been health, not necessarily lacking talent. So, let's say this trade goes down, ron for carter (plus whoever else to make it work), even if tmac is really done and can't be the tmac of old, i think carter would basically step into a similar role and the team would basically become last year's Rockets, but healthy, with an "extra" tmac at 75%. That's not really a bad thing. Carter can't pass as well, but he still can score the ball and get his shots, the team desperately needs someone like that since Tmac isn't doing it.
The sunk-cost fallacy of McG's trade value has to end. Billups and Prince was seen as a lowball offer. His stock dropped further and we turned down Rasheed and Hamilton. It went down again a few months ago, and the idea was his value couldn't possibly get any lower... and lo and behold it did. How low can he go?
Well carter has shown he can be clutch, he pretty much just launches a 40 footer in those situations, but he always gets off an open look and drills it. Maybe it's a good thing not to have one main guy, that way the other team won't know who its going to.
Beggars cant be choosers. We are stuck at a crossroad.If you have a better suggestion as to what we should do then please. Do tell. 1) Ron is not Vince. 2) I don't care if we need another boaster next year. I'm worried about this year. This season. Our season. Not 2010. Not 2011 either. But now. What was supposed to be the "perfect" season. Going at this rate we will probably not even make the playoffs. A radical change MUST be made. All is not lost. 3) Vince for Artest+fillers is the most logical yet fair trade I've heard of thus far. It's not like we're going to get some super stud pg to run the show here. VC is better than the 99% of the crap I've heard thrown around on this board such as (Hinrich, Jermaine Oneal, Sczerbiack etc) To those who keep saying Vince makes too much money or that his contract is an albatross... WHO CARES? Obviously our current "big 3" experiment works salary wise but not from a production or chemistry point of stand. Unless I missed something we are still in a WIN NOW mode as we should be since Yao is not getting any younger. Make the trade now and worry about the future later. Our future is now or should I say yesterday. 2010 is for bottom dwellers.
Because KG, Pierce and Paul were all the MAN on their respective teams before they became Celtics right? I don't know of a more clutch player down the stretch after Kobe than Carter. The guy has a knack for knocking down buzzer beaters/game winners.
not the ideal trade for us. but a good one nonetheless, considering all the circumstances. please get it done.
Um, yeah they kind of were. KG had a reputation for shying away from the ball down the stretch, but Allen and especially Pierce were definitely top dogs on their teams. Too bad the Nets have only averaged like 40 wins a year (in the East no less) since he's been there. He's got a McGradyian knack for playing in a lot of games that don't matter.
