Those pics of the arc are pretty old, I remember seeing them a few years ago. I dont know about the validity due to the digital age. But I do believe in Noah and that he built the arc.
Bill Cosby actually has the conversation between Noah and God on one of his albums...so it must be true. DD
Why are you limiting him? DaDa has the ability to hate on both, the team, the coach, and the entire city all at once BTW, I am very disappointed that no one took the time to photoshop the Mt. Ararat picture in this thread...such a wasted opportunity!
lol. Ok, no problem. Sorry if I jumped the gun in accusing you. I didn't really put that much stock in the original story, so I didn't pay much attention. Then when I came back there was some huge firestorm going on, and I just started trying to piece together what happened.
If the Bible is the written word of God and you don't take a literalist approach then what does that say?
It is saying that God intended the message to be what was important and not the literal words written down.
People. First principle in philosophy- religion can not be proved false, unlike science. Stop trying.
Well I had a lengthy response typed up, but I figure I would be wasting my time here. I'll just say that as a Christian if I ever meet No Worries or Meowgi in person, that I'll buy them a beer or whatever their favorite drink is. Because whether I like it or not, I have to show love and compassion towards them EVEN if they feel that I am a total nutjob for saying that.
Yes, that is the whole idea of the bible, is to try and understand God's intent. Most refer to it as doing God's will. That is the goal of religious people everywhere. They just often disagree about what God's will is. What is the point of worshipping a God that you have no idea what his intent and message is?
Those pictures are old. There was already an "inestigative team" formed to get proof from the area in 2004. It was cancelled the day it was supposed to be launched because they said Turkey would not give them visas. They will not try again. Meowgi - try to sugar coat it all you like but you always act like a complete ass in religion threads. Let it go. Hug an Xian! Yours in damnation, rimbaphone
I don't ever remember hearing about something like this, but if its true, wow...I'd like to think if it did exist, that we'd all have heard something, but maybe not...The pic is interesting though...
Hence the question, why not a literal translation of the word of God? Attempting to interpret the thought process of an omnipotent power seems rather arrogant and pointless.
a. i believe in noah and his big boat cause the bible says so and the bible is the literal word of god. boo-yah. b. i believe in noah and his big boat cause the bible is a valid historical document, and while not entirely accurate, its contents may have inspiration in actual events. we can corroborate certain stories with archeological, geological and anthropological investigations. c. noah was a drunk man and i don't like him or believe in these bible myths. --------------------------------- if there is a wooden ark on mt. arafat, does it affect any positions found in this thread? perhaps people who believe in point (c). but 'non-believers' who place scientific evidence over faith will accept any archeological evidence with some aplomb, knowing that one can't really make the leap of faith on tactile evidence alone. and what if it's just a bunch of rocks? faith isn't dependent on evidence or the lack of evidence. faith is a supreme expression of the suspension of logic -- it is an embrace of the absurd. believers will go on believing. the onus is on science to disprove religion and not the other way around. personally, i think it's fascinating whenever there are discoveries that offers historical and logical links between reality and some of the more fantastic stories in the bible. (e.g. 'sea of reeds', sodom & gomorrah, etc.)
↑↑↑ This guy told me he thought he could tell that it definately was the ark from where he's lying down. Honestly, there was a reason to pursue this question something like 20 years ago, but I see no even halfway compelling reason to believe in this idea after having seen documentary after documentary which pile up evidence against this idea. I was open to this idea when I heard it 5 or 6 years ago, but evidence has piled up against it and it's becoming like the James Ossuary. You can still find websites where people claim it is authentic despite absolute proof that it isn't and that the man who produced it is a known forger, It also has some aspects of the grassy knoll that won't die where people feel drawn to believe in a conspiracy to keep them down.
Because if God didn't intend it to be literal(We know that the story of creation is poem, and written in stanzas in a traditional style and format of a Hebrew poem) then why take it literally? The point of the bible is to give people a spiritual guide, about how to live their lives. It is not a history book, nor one to predict the future. It is not a science book. If you don't interpret God's intention, then there is no point in reading the book(IMO). The book isn't God's literal words either. It was written by men, who had a limited understanding themselves of what God wanted. I have a limited understanding of what God wants, as do we all. Studying and reading the bible to search for a better understanding of God's will is humbling, and far from arrogant. Rather than being pointless, I believe it is the point.
