wait, i don't get it. isn't that exactly how people get blown up in the first place? someone rats them out. israel locates them and sends in the apaches? so you're saying that, by having more people rat out terrorists, that there will be LESS missile attacks against terrorists?
Sure it will. Just pack up all the Palestinians and ship them to Jordan, and there you go, you've suddenly ended terrorism forever. I learned that just recently. With such a brilliant proposal, it's a wonder the world isn't organizing as we type to put it immediately into action.
LOL, what are you talking about? You know that Jordanians hate Palestinians, and vice versa, right? Who's genius proposal is this?
Read up the thread, dude, if you can stomach it. This page - shouldn't take long to spot. Usual suspect and so on.
Proof, please. If it had any factory that even supplied food to the German troops or made sleeping bags or tires, it was a legitimate target. But by this standard, you've justified ANY killing of civilians. If any civilian works, then they are generating tax funds that will be used by the government to purchase weaponry. Thus, taking ou that civilian hurts the country's income stream and hinders their war-making capacity. Now, any civilian then is helping the war effort and thus is a legitimate target? I guess this might still exempt kids and/or the elderly, but any 18-60 yr old is a legit target?
Looks like both sides are spiralling into a cess pool. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&u=/nm/20040422/wl_nm/mideast_humanshield_dc&printer=1 Activists Say Israel Held Boy, 13, as Human Shield Thu Apr 22, 9:22 AM ET Add World - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Cynthia Johnston BIDDO, West Bank (Reuters) - When older Palestinian boys started throwing stones at Israeli border police in the flashpoint West Bank village of Biddo, 13-year-old Muhammed Badwan went along to watch. He ended up on the hood of an Israeli jeep, at least one of his skinny arms tied to a wire mesh screen that blocks the windshield from incoming stones, according to a photograph of the purrported incident distributed by an Israeli rights group. "He was a shield for them," Saeed Badwan, a 34-year-old labourer, said of his only son. "When I saw him on the hood of the jeep, my whole mind went crazy...It's a picture you can't even imagine. He was shivering from fear." Police said Muhammed's case was sent to the Justice Ministry for investigation. "I know there was violent rioting, serious rock throwing. It's unclear what happened. " police spokesman Gil Kleiman said. "As a general rule, we do not expose civilians to physical damage willingly," he added. Israel accuses Palestinian militants of routinely using non-combatants for cover. Palestinian activists in Biddo, a focal point for protests against Israel's West Bank barrier, say troops have increasingly responded with excessive force to disperse stone throwers. The Israeli human rights group B'Tselem said it was monitoring West Bank anti-barrier protests after Palestinian complaints of rising violence by Israeli security forces, especially in Biddo. Medics say four Palestinians have been shot dead this year in Biddo in rock throwing protests against the barrier, which Israel says is necessary to keep out suicide bombers. An elderly man also died of heart failure after inhaling tear gas. Palestinians say the barrier, whose planned route snakes deep into the West Bank, is intended to annex territory captured by Israel in 1967 that Palestinians want for a state. Biddo activists said border police had in two separate instances this month used villagers as shields to prevent stone throwing. They said forces had also repeatedly used both rubber and live bullets to disperse protesters. NO TO HUMAN SHIELDS "I was scared when they got me at first. I thought they would put me in prison...I was scared a stone would hit me," Muhammed said, nursing a split lip a week after his hours-long detention. Stone throwing mostly stopped when he was on the jeep. "I cried on the hood of the jeep, and when I saw my dad." Israel's Supreme Court barred the use of Palestinians as human shields in 2002 after an incident in which soldiers forced the neighbor of a suspected militant to knock on his door and deliver their ultimatum to surrender. The militant shot and killed the man. "There is supposed to be an injunction against the military... But there is evidence it is still continuing. It is less, but it does happen," said Marwan Dalal, a lawyer with the Israeli Arab rights group Adalah. He said it was more common for soldiers to use Palestinians as human shields in military operations, but that civilians had also been used to block stone throwing. He cited a case last year in which he said security forces used a Palestinian as a human shield during a protest in the divided West Bank city of Hebron. "I am sure it happens more than is documented," he said. A left-wing Israeli rabbi who said he too was detained as a human shield when he tried to intervene to free Muhammed Badwan last week said he planned to press charges. . . . But Muhammed, though he said he still wanted to throw stones at soldiers, said he did not consider all Israelis his enemy. "If I saw an Israeli child, I would respect him, not hit him," Muhammed said. "The soldier was not good, an animal. But the man who came to help me is an honorable person."
That's bizzarre woofer... why leave out only: ? Was it irrelevant that there is an organization called Rabbis for Human Rights? And you could say both sides are spiralling out of control ... when there are no Israeli acitivists trying to protect the innocent Palestinians. When there is no Israeli court order barring such offensive and dangerous behaviour. And FWIW, I have yet to hear of any Palestinians who speak out against suicide-bombing of innocent civilians.
