I said it before and I will say it again - don't expect me to shed a tear for the guy. What is Israel supposed to do? Just let these guys expand their power at the top and let them send more and more suicide bombers - kids and women included? MacBeth, if you say Rantisi was one of the moderates, you are sadly misinformed. Unfortunately, this will not end terror. It is like cutting off the heads of a hydra, new ones will keep growing back. However, at least it kind of makes it harder for the hydra to control its legs (carry out suicide attacks) until the new head has grown back. Long-term, going on with this is not a solution. One can only hope that at some point, the Palestinians will turn to more moderate forces like Kurei and that extremists like Hamas will lose support. Or that one of the successors at the head of Hamas will put a stop to the senseless violence against Israeli civilians, but that is about as likely as the Cavs winning the Championship this year.
3.3million Palestinians? Big deal. There are almost a billion Muslims. If they didn't support this cause before, they will once they realize that Israel is doing exactly what you described. Hamas is anti-zionist not anti-Israeli.
Uh huh. So now we're using law and right? Palestinians have absolutely nothing to do with Persians. First, you have to decide if you're going to play the "law and right" game, or the "who's more powerful" game. Once you've established that, make an argument. Two people were killed with missiles, one coming out of a mosque, and you're talking about law and right?
The problem with this is, all of the Israeli Jews are zionists. Just like Arafat and the PLO, Hamas invisions a Middle East without Israel. That's why they have no problem with the indiscriminate killing of Israelis. So you think that all Muslims support terrorism? Interesting.
Arafat, the PLO, and Hamas envision the world without Israel. Israel envisions the world without anyone else. It's no secret what the agenda of zionists consists of. I think that neither you nor George Bush have the right to define terrorism. I think that Muslims will begin to support the people who are fighting against zionists once they realize that Israel will murder anyone who supports the Palestinian cause. I think that Muslims want to support the end of suicide bombings, etc...
What?? Israel envisions the world without anyone else? How about this - they envision the world without some misguided people blowing them up in their buses! Is that not terrorism? Blowing civilians up in buses all the time? These attacks were ordered by Yassin and Rantisi. I don't necessarily think that what Israel did was "legal" or that it will help much, but these two guys got what they deserved.
I'm assuming by this statement that you're ok with the death sentence. Correct me if I'm wrong. You believe that human beings get to decide when other human beings should have their lives taken away. Right? Israel envisions the world without anyone else. No typo there. Sharon deserves to be blown up as much as these two. Sharon was a terrorist way before he became the leader of Israel. Who was it that had the list of the organizations he joined and headed before he became a member of the government?
Sane, You need to change your moniker. Anyone who supports people blowing up innocent civilians is an idiot. Peace does not come by terrorism, only more violence can happen. Violence begats violence.....Hamas sends a suicide bomber and actively pursues terrorism, I don't know why anyone would be shocked by their leaders getting killed. GOOD FOR ISRAEL....keep killing their leaders until they lose the will to fight, or a leader takes over that is truly intersted in peace and not a misguided ideal that Israel will ever go away...IT WON'T. DD
This is a classical example of the arab propaganda turnspeak. It's the arab world that envisions the world without Israel. We can prove this through documentation.
It can be. Professor Hans Kung has said, "Until there is peace between religions, there can be no peace in the world." People kill and are killed because they cling too tightly to their own beliefs and ideologies. When we believe that ours is the only faith that contains the truth, violence and suffering will surely be the result. "Do not think the knowledge you presently possess is changeless, absolute truth. Avoid being narrow-minded and bound to present views. Learn and practice nonattachment from views in order to be open to receive others' viewpoints." To me, this is the most essential practice of peace. - Thich Nhat Hanh
No, I am actually not a friend of the death sentence. But this is a case that I would compare less to a death sentence situation than to a self-defense situation. You have these lunatics shooting at your wives and children (using suicide bombers) and you try to take them out, in self-defense. That's the way I look at it. I don't really see Israel having problems with anyone else but parts of the Arab and Muslim world (tendency being that the problems exist more strongly the more extremist the representatives in the region or party of the Arab and Muslim world are). So your statement doesn't really make sense. I am not a friend of Sharon. It is a tragedy that Rabin was killed. But there is one thing that Sharon does not do, and that is to send suicide bombers to kill women and children, like Yassin and Rantisi did. Their fanatism, and other muslim extremists' fanatism, is unsurpassed in the world.
I think Sane spent a summer in a Hamas training camp. Need I quote Saddam Hussein prior to the Gulf War?
Hydra, actually I understand that the total population including the former refugees in neighboring countries like Jordan, Syria, Iraq, etc. is more like 8 million. But I'm not sure how many of those living outside Israel/Palestine would be willing to become martyrs.
What an utter load of bullsh*t. The goal of Hamas is the complete destruction of the state of Israel. With that as their goal, how in the hell can you possibly state that they are not anti-Israeli????
Actually that is not their only goal nor the purpose of their creation. That is A stated goal of Hamas. Only one branch of Hamas currently is involved in that. The rest goes to educating orphans, feeding poor, and doing community services. The problem is that the education and services Hamas provide are injected with a liberal dose of 'Israel = Bad News'. That is then reinforced by Israels policies and oppression. What needs to happen is more complicated than just give one side this and the other side that. Someone who isn't so slanted toward Israel needs offer the same social services as Hamas, but even better. Those people should encourage heavy resistence to the Israeli occupation and oppression but in a peaceful and constructive way. Israel should pull out of the occupied terrirtories back to it's own borders and secure them as tightly as possible. There will never be peace and a lovey dovey feeling while an occupying army is on Palestinian land, preventing them from using their resources and having a viable economy.
Whoever we are, wherever we’re from We shoulda noticed by now, our behavior is dumb And if our chances expect to improve It’s gonna take a lot more, than trying to remove the other race Or the other whatever, from the face Of the planet altogether They call it THE EARTH, which is a dumb kinda name But they named it right, ‘cause we behave the same... We are dumb all over Dumb all over, yes we are Dumb all over, near an’ far Dumb all over, black an’ white People, we is not wrapped tight Nerds on the left, nerds on the right Religious fanatics on the air every night Saying the Bible tells the story Makes the details sound real gory About what to do if the geeks over there Don’t believe in the book we got over here ... You can’t run a country by a book of religion Not by a heap or a lump or a smidgen Of foolish rules of ancient date Designed to make you all feel great While you fold, spindle and mutilate Those unbelievers from a neighboring state FZ
Is this what you meant? <i> Someone who isn't so slanted against Israel needs to offer the same social services as Hamas, but even better. </i> <hr color=green> Gaining funding for a more moderate group to replace Hamas in the Social Services area is probably one of the bigger obstacles in achieving that goal.
