1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

New Draftexpress mock draft (accounting for team needs)

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by Carl Herrera, May 29, 2012.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    Raptors have Derozen. They need a point, not another SG.
     
  2. haoafu

    haoafu Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    56
    Most likely Zeller will be better than Nick Collison. A closer look at his college career shows that he's made nice progress in each every year. He's also a couple inches taller with better rebounding ability. I believe he's got better upside than people give credit for.

    True center like that is a steal IMO.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    DeRozan is not that good. They just need the best talent.
     
  4. plutoblue11

    plutoblue11 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    10,528
    Likes Received:
    1,011
    If they get top 3 pick, I doubt that will traded, as well.
     
  5. infinitidoug

    infinitidoug Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,219
    Likes Received:
    26
    thank goodness, no more PFs
     
  6. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,828
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    Does anybody think Davis will be a bust?
     
  7. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    You are the bust. Bust.
     
  8. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    <object id="flashObj" width="486" height="412" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,47,0"><param name="movie" value="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><param name="flashVars" value="videoId=1662069223001&playerID=634637905001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAPmbRFdk~,-M7WdMAfPDp6IiDevQndhF6ZztJPMgEn&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" /><param name="base" value="http://admin.brightcove.com" /><param name="seamlesstabbing" value="false" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="swLiveConnect" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" flashVars="videoId=1662069223001&playerID=634637905001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAPmbRFdk~,-M7WdMAfPDp6IiDevQndhF6ZztJPMgEn&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" base="http://admin.brightcove.com" name="flashObj" width="486" height="412" seamlesstabbing="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullScreen="true" swLiveConnect="true" allowScriptAccess="always" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></embed></object>

    http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2012/05/2012-nba-draft-blazers-tyler-zeller-video.html

    <object id="flashObj" width="486" height="412" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,47,0"><param name="movie" value="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><param name="flashVars" value="videoId=1661976128001&playerID=634637905001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAPmbRFdk~,-M7WdMAfPDp6IiDevQndhF6ZztJPMgEn&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" /><param name="base" value="http://admin.brightcove.com" /><param name="seamlesstabbing" value="false" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="swLiveConnect" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" flashVars="videoId=1661976128001&playerID=634637905001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAPmbRFdk~,-M7WdMAfPDp6IiDevQndhF6ZztJPMgEn&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" base="http://admin.brightcove.com" name="flashObj" width="486" height="412" seamlesstabbing="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullScreen="true" swLiveConnect="true" allowScriptAccess="always" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></embed></object>

    <object id="flashObj" width="486" height="412" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,47,0"><param name="movie" value="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><param name="flashVars" value="videoId=1662053153001&playerID=634637905001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAPmbRFdk~,-M7WdMAfPDp6IiDevQndhF6ZztJPMgEn&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" /><param name="base" value="http://admin.brightcove.com" /><param name="seamlesstabbing" value="false" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="swLiveConnect" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer/federated_f9?isVid=1" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" flashVars="videoId=1662053153001&playerID=634637905001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAAPmbRFdk~,-M7WdMAfPDp6IiDevQndhF6ZztJPMgEn&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" base="http://admin.brightcove.com" name="flashObj" width="486" height="412" seamlesstabbing="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullScreen="true" swLiveConnect="true" allowScriptAccess="always" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"></embed></object>
     
  9. RV6

    RV6 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    So, no one is going to mention Tyler's injury history ? Surprising, considering it included a stress fracture in his foot.
     
  10. dje243

    dje243 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,683
    Likes Received:
    225
    That would be a pretty boring haul. I think you go up and get sullinger and then get the best 2 available with your other pick. Sullinger and lamb is my prefered haul. We need to get some players with at least borderline star potential. Despite his tweener status Sullinger gives us that. Remember the end of last season when the chuckwagon started to find his offensive stride? I can remember more than a few posters wishing chuck could be just a few inches taller. This guy could turn out to be a taller chuck hayes with more tools to score.
     
  11. ktbballplaya

    ktbballplaya Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2003
    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    278
    Say no to zeller hes soft physically and mentally
     
  12. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    You may be in luck. I believe the Kansas game showed Sullinger for what he is. A tweener who got exposed playing against NBA talent in Robinson and Whitney. Slow, no leaping ability, and no lateral quickness. Reminds me a lot of a wider Scola. I actually could see him around at 14. Even then I would hope that the Rockets have had enough of 6'9" tweeners.
     
  13. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    I think I would prefer to hope Henson drops, or take Moultrie (which may be a pick or two early, but heck, I don't want any more short PFs!).
     
  14. slothy420

    slothy420 Paper Street Soap Co.

    Joined:
    May 10, 2002
    Messages:
    1,126
    Likes Received:
    478
    I think R.White has borderline all-star potential and he seems to be realistically attainable at the Rockets predicted draft position... we could potentially even trade down for him and get another pick out of it. Once these guys get on the court and start playing, I think all the question marks about his psychological issues are going to fly out the window and GM's are going to be kicking themselves for passing on White. The beauty is that the Rockets could have two other picks in this draft (if Morey plays his cards right) so they wouldn't be putting all their eggs in one basket, but that's just my opinion. Now, I don't know if there would be room on the roster (or cap) for three first rounders - or two firsts and a second - but that's for another discussion.
     
  15. Rocketman81

    Rocketman81 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2010
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    31
    I liked Moreys selection of Morris and still do. Im not for the whole "value" thing. We have been drafting and collecting "valuable assets" for several years and havent been able to do anything with them. On the other hand if you want to go the value route then I think Leonards would still be greater atleast for the first 2 years. Lets take D12 scenario as an example. If I am the GM of the Magic and have no choice but to trade him or let him walk. I would rather have that young guy as part of the package who has the potential to be more than a role player than I would want a group of players that will never be anything more than role players. I hope that makes sense. Im on my phone typing and can't see everything I typed.

    Can you clarify what you mean by "true center"? You don't think Leonard is a true center?
     
  16. aelliott

    aelliott Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    5,928
    Likes Received:
    4,892
    I would be very happy if we could get Ross with either of our picks.
     
  17. denver-rox-fan

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    11
    Sign me up for some combo of Ross and Zeller/Moultrie/Henson, probably in that order, but if all three are available and Morey likes one best I am going to go ahead and trust his judgment.

    My guess is that Zeller will go quite a bit higher though. He is the classic kind of pick that basketball teams value a lot more than fans/mock drafts. The feet do worry me though.
     
  18. Amel

    Amel Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    10,642
    Likes Received:
    5,734
    just listening to his jesus talk makes me SMH
     
  19. quinnolivarez

    quinnolivarez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    356
    Likes Received:
    25
    disagree. Best case is Marcus Camby, worst case is Przybilla sans the knee injuries.
     

Share This Page