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[New Book] Why It's OK to Ignore Politics

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    background on the "Why It's OK" series:

    https://200proofliberals.blogspot.com/2020/08/routledges-why-its-okay-series.html

    Friday, August 28, 2020

    Here is a new video about Routledge's Why It's OK series. . . .

    Chris Freiman explains why it's OK--indeed, laudable and obligatory for most people, to ignore politics. I explain why it's OK--indeed, in many cases laudable--for most people to want to be rich, to make money to get rich, and to keep much of their money rather than giving it all away. Jess Flanigan will later argue that it's OK to have bad grammar and spelling.


    Here's the series blurb:

    Philosophers often build cogent arguments for unpopular positions. Recent examples include cases against marriage and pregnancy, for treating animals as our equals, and dismissing some widely popular art as aesthetically inferior. What philosophers have done less often is to offer compelling arguments for widespread and established human behavior, like getting married, having children, eating animals, and going to the movies. But if one role for philosophy is to help us reflect on our lives and build sound justifications for our beliefs and actions, it seems odd that philosophers would neglect the development of arguments for the lifestyles most people—including many philosophers—actually lead. Unfortunately, philosophers’ inattention to normalcy has meant that the ways of life that define our modern societies have gone largely without defense, even as whole literatures have emerged to condemn them.  

    Why It’s OK: The Ethics and Aesthetics of How We Live seeks to remedy that. It’s a series of books that provides accessible, sound, and often new and creative arguments for widespread ethical and aesthetic values. Made up of short volumes that assume no previous knowledge of philosophy from the reader, the series recognizes that philosophy is just as important for understanding what we already believe as it is for criticizing the status quo. The series isn’t meant to make us complacent about what we value; rather, it helps and challenges us to think more deeply about the values that give our daily lives meaning. 

    Forthcoming:

    Why It’s OK to Get Married
    Christie J. Hartley

    Why It’s OK to Love Bad Movies
    Matthew Strohl

    Why It’s OK to Eat Meat
    Dan C. Shahar

    Why It’s OK to Mind Your Own Business
    Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke

    Why It’s OK to Be Fat
    Rekha Nath

    Why It’s OK to Be a Moral Failure
    Robert Talisse

    Why It’s OK to Have Bad Grammar and Spelling
    Jessica Flanigan

    Why It’s OK to Speak Your Mind
    Hrishikesh Joshi


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    Is it OK to ignore these threads?
     
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    Silence is Violence

    https://200proofliberals.blogspot.com/2020/08/on-silence-is-violence.html

    Thursday, August 27, 2020
    On "Silence is Violence"

    TL;DR: If we take "silence is violence" seriously, then I am authorized to beat most of you up.

    A video is going around with a bunch of white kids harassing some white woman outside a restaurant because she didn't make a BLM fist on demand. I have no idea how representative or common this kind of thing is; I suspect it was largely unique to this particular mob.

    They repeat the slogan "Silence is violence".

    From a strategic point of view, it's a beautiful slogan for few reasons.

    If you get people to believe it, then they are forced/bullied/pushed/induced/conscripted/whatnot to join your side. Once somebody sincerely says, "Either you're with us or against us," you recognize that they are forbidding you from being neutral. Either you fight for them or fight against them. Either way, you have to fight. Threats backed with overwhelming force often work.

    But it goes beyond that. By equating literally doing nothing with literal violence, you thereby authorize people in your own group to use violence as they see fit. Most people raised in a modern, liberal, tolerant, open, democratic society were taught that you may use violence defensively, not offensively. You may use it against perpetrators of violence, not against innocent bystanders. However, if you can convince yourself that innocent bystanders doing nothing are literally committing violence, then you are thereby authorized to use defensive violence against them. If eating dinner and not raising a fist when asked is violence, then you may punch back! Far from condemning this mob for acting like every other religious and struggle session mob throughout history, we should perhaps praise their restraint, as they didn't literally beat the hell out of this "violent" woman . Or, perhaps, we should condemn them for not responding to the violence of her silence with actual violence. Maybe this mob was too cowardly to stop her violent silence.

    As a strategic matter, it's brilliant messaging for controlling your mob and others. But is the position correct?

    It's easy to come up with cases where one is obligated to act rather than remain silent or to do nothing. You ought not pass by the drowning toddler when you can save him with little effort. You ought not let your colleague grope a grad student at a party when you can intervene, especially if it won't cost you your job. You ought to stand up for your friend when the bully pushes him, but the two of you outnumber and can take the bully.

    But of course the world is full of injustice. Right now, people are literally enslaved. China is engaging in genocide or something close to it against the Uighurs. Myanmar's government is engaging in genocide against the Rohingya.

    Some people are unaware of these things, though as far as I can tell, the typical person in the mob above is unlikely to regard ignorance of atrocity as an excuse when the news of the atrocity is easy to encounter.

    If silence is violence, then, can we not condemn even more people--including most BLM protestors--for their silence and complicity in horrific evil? Note that I wrote two books and multiple papers in response to systematic violence against blacks in the US, so I am not being defensive here, and further, I share many of the BLM protestor's concerns. But that said, the crimes I just mentioned--slavery and genocide--are even worse than how the US's criminal justice system treats blacks. Alternatively, if we care about structural injustice, in terms of sheer overall loss of welfare, closed borders is worse than everything else by a couple orders of magnitude. Should we form a mob and intimidate any BLM protestors who don't make the open borders hand signal (I guess we'll need to devise one) on demand?

    One might insist that the difference is that some issues are more salient or local.

    I'm not sure what difference "local" makes except in cases where one can actually make a big difference. It's easy to save the drowning toddler in front of you, which is part of what makes it obligatory rather than optional. But beyond that, it's not clear to me why local matters. If it takes equal effort to stop a horrific injustice overseas or a less horrific injustice here, you should stop the injustice overseas. But we're not really talking here about stopping injustice. Getting some women eating dinner on a DC sidewalk to make a fist is not going to make a difference in reforming the police.

    I'm also not sure how "salience" makes a difference. BLM is salient in part because the news covers this issue far more than it covers, say, the Uighur atrocities or the injustice of closed borders, and they cover it more in part because that's what people are protesting. Citing salience here is a bit like saying the topic you want to discuss is the most important because you happen to be discussing it. Nope.

    At any rate, starting tonight, I plan to wander DC with a bat and beat up anyone who isn't already wearing a T-shirt proclaiming their disgust at the top 10 on-going injustices in the world today. Silence is violence, and I intend to stop the violence!

    Personally, it turns out I complain the correct amount about all the injustices in the world, so I am not liable to defensive violence. The rest of you had better watch out, though.


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