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New Blinebury Blog: Rox fed up with TMac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Blake, Jan 11, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    you do know what a "blog" means right? there's nothing journalistic about a blog.

    you do know newspapers do put "editorials" on print right? not blogs though.

    blogs are there for interactive purposes.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    exactly. tracy's an emotional and a PRETTY HONEST guy. if the situation is that bad where the players have given up on him, i'm sure he'll ask for a trade immediately.

    remember when weisbrod openly criticized him? you know what happened.

    tracy tried hard v. philly and oklahoma, which means it's not that bad.
     
  3. worzel gummidge

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    Good cop, bad cop. It's not like those two don't compare or share notes. This is the type of information that Feigan can't really write as the beat writer. Fran can be more critical but when the topic is too hot they get a non-basketball writer to put their name to it. Even Fran has his limits on what he can report. I'm guessing the lockerroom is that bad or the front office is OK with leaking such information which doesn't bode well for McGrady.
     
  4. blender

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    I saw a picture of that sign, but the story's new to me. Don't know if I would trust the story though. No offense but that's just me.
     
  5. ibm

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    i am 41. how old are you? nothing personal. just curious. you are clearly a big mcgrady fan and i can't blame you for trying to defend him. but the way you try to find excuses for the guy is truly, hmm, funny.
     
  6. ibm

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    i've asked feigen in his blog about how he thought about fran's blog. do you think he'd respond?
     
  7. t_mac1

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    don't you think tracy's the kind of guy where if he knows the team has given up on him, he would reciprocate thing?

    if this is true where the team and management have given up on the guy, then i'm all for trading him. see ya, bye bye.

    but all i've heard from feign, morey, adelman, artest, alston is that they want him to play better with more effort, and thus consistency. if you play sports, it's hard to play with someone you truly dislike (outside of shaq and kobe of course).
     
  8. ibm

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    that was in atlanta. and the guy wore a rockets jersey. saw it on tv.

    but the rest of the story, i've never heard. anyone has any source? hard for me to imagine they'd remove that fan and/or his sign.
     
  9. Rockets4279

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    lolz. Yea people will defend him to his grave. So a guy who had 2 offseason surgeries they claim enters training camp to tell the media he needs surgery again on the same shoulder he just had surgery on, but this issue now is the knee in which he had surgery and did not rehab then found god when Artest arrived? You can pretty much read his body language and what he did during the off season. From what i hear he is hanging out with Garnett so did he rehab? Probably not, i just hear what i hear from other people and try to put pieces together and it's showing up this season.
     
  10. ClutchCityReturns

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    Exactly who came to my mind...

    I did start my post with "Granted".
     
  11. badgerfan

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    Again, the public statements Artest made just seems to support what Blinebury's writing. I think there's a good chance T-Mac will be gone, especially if Doc Rocket's info is good.
     
  12. roslolian

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    LOL the problem with you is you already have an idea what the reality of the situation is, and considering this "blogger" (actually an insult to decent bloggers out there) agrees with your world view you immediately assume him to be correct and the people who call his BS apologists. Why don't you break down his post part by part then you'll see the inconsistency of his lies:

    A) Rox is done with Tmac
    B) Rox need to unload his ass at all costs
    C) His teammates hate him and Tmac has now entered "cancer" status
    D) Tmac is a bad influence, causing Artest to become lazy and dog it too
    E) Trading for Marbury and David Lee is a good move so that rox players won't waste another year


    Ok, first off E is a terrible, terrible trade; how we be better off with THE CANCER and David Lee? In case you missed the last game the Knicks had both of those players, and we blew them out :rolleyes: B is just his opinion, I don't really see the need for unloading Tmac right now since he will be an expiring contract next year. Getting him for less than his real value would just be step back.

    A and C are pure speculations. The only fact that he has in his blog is just the post by the "anonymous" player. Take note, not only is the quote anonymous, but the opinion is just of ONE player. How do you know it wasn't taken out of context or that the player's opinion mirrors that of the organization?

    This is where trust and credibility comes in. Adrian Wojwhatever of yahoo sports always comes up with articles like this all the time. However when he writes something I believe it to be true, because everyone of his "inside info" (regarding trades, rumors etc) has been true. However I can say to you now D is flat out wrong. How do I know that? Because doctors just said that Artest had a stress fracture Duh! How can he dog it when he is legitimately injured? Unless that blogger expects him to play with a stress fracture :rolleyes:

    So what we have here is 1 blatant lie, 2 bad ideas and 2 speculations. Considering the bad idea and the lie I have every reason to believe that A and C is wrong as well. So do you, unless you happen to be a first class idiot who'll believe anything, in which case loan me 10 grand and I'll quadruple it in one year...
     
  13. leebigez

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    I'm tired of hearing about Tracy. If the Rockets feel like they're a better team without him, they should just trade him. I had to fire my best driver, but he was doing things that could jeopardize my company. Dude made me a lot of money, but in business, everyone is replaceable. There are deals out there if the rox want them. Its easy to replace mcgradys production, but harder to replace his impact on the game. The knicks have some combo 2 yr deals if they want to stay in the 10 sweeps. The bulls have some ok young talent also. If that's the wa the organization feel, make a deal. This is about the front of the jersey, not the back. This organization moves past players and if mcgrady is traded, they'll get over him also.

    This whole deal about influencing Artest is bs though. Artest is a man's man as we say. He isn't a guy that allows others influence what he do or how he act. Some of those other players besides Yao should ever speak up about anything because most are in the league because of tracy. How many teams could Rafer or Chuck Hayes play on in the nba right now and that team would win as much as the rox have? Battier hadn't won a playoff game in 3 tries before he played with Tracy. Those guys don't bother me as much. Like I've said, I can trade anyone and feel ok about it. He they traded Moses after he took a 41 win team to the finals and almost traded dream in his prime because they thought he was faking a hamstring problem for a new contract. When you trade impact players, you better get one back or you'll be in the lotto.
     
  14. Rockets4279

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    Who knows it has been said for the first time. Then again who cares at this point. Everybody when writing blogs or not is entitled to their own opinion. Sure they give their opinion and lets not forget Les is also a Knicks fan too. :eek:

    Does the article suprise me? Nope. This is why i find it to only be half true considering the obvious.
     
  15. daernoth

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    I wish so badly the Rockets had just given Artest and Tmac half the season to sit it out and get better instead of assuming the Rockets cant win without them.

    Now we know that they can indeed win without them by doing what should have been done from the beginning, by giving the young guys their minutes so they could develop and grow as a team.

    Inserting Tmac into the starting lineup like every other game has done nothing but disrupt the chemistry. And now... we see the young guys emerge despite all this crap. Thank goodness.

    All we got from rushing these 2 guys back is drama and discontent. Im still happy about the acquisition of Artest but its time to let the man shut it down and get better before the playoffs come. Making him play right now is a mistake to could seriously bite them in the ar.se later. A week is not enough rest for Artest... isnt it freaking obvious??
     
  16. ibm

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    what impact are you talking about? if you're talking 'bout the past, then yes. but those "impact" days are long gone in my mind. nowadays, other than his production, his biggest "impact" is being a ball-stopper.

    and most rockets sans yao are in the league "because of" mcgrady? whoa, you're out of your mind. so gasol is nobody before he met the almighty kobe, eh? keith bogans played with mcgrady; now he's back in orlando and i can only see him improving. without #1, brooks wouldn't even be drafted, eh? and as far as i remember, rafer was playing for the heat and raptors before he was traded here to play alongside mcgrady. and yes, deke is nobody before mcgrady came to play.

    a terrible post, leebigez. terrible - other than the "trade is business" part.
     
  17. crimmy88

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    I bet the Rocket he talked to was Luther Head.
     
  18. ibm

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    oh, forgot to mention - i agree with that part, too. :cool:
     
  19. leebigez

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    That's what I say, probably a uncredible blog. I guess we'll find out sooner or later. It amazes me how people say they don't care about the rox winning, but they played hard. That's cool for a expansion team, not for a "win now" team.
     
  20. Rockets4279

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    What gets me is last season Mac has stated 2 or 3 times it's all about the post season. So if the front office knows this and knows his knee is bumbed and talked to him twice already then why is he still playing if he is not in rehab over the bumbed knee. It will never be 100% this season even if he is playing on it I don't think and will only be worst when the playoffs roll around assuming they get their first. Is this only about trying to make the playoffs? How is he going to be 100% or 90% ready when that time comes around when he is still playing on it. Just because your playing don't mean it's automatically magically just get better.
     

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