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New Blinebury Blog: Rox fed up with TMac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Blake, Jan 11, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    well i agree wholeheartedly. but that's not my point.

    the point is under adelman's offense, everyone is basically equal. unless yao can suddenly make plays from the high post, he's not gonna get anymore shot attempts than he already has.
     
  2. leebigez

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    BMoney- I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I wouldn't trade Tracy. His impact on the game is greater than his production. All I'm saying is if the organiztion is so fed up with him, trade him. As far as Marion goes, I used to talk to dee brown a lot since he's down there in florida.The thing with Marion is similar to what joe johnson went through.People took away credit for him being a good player and gave it all to steve nash. Now if you bust your but to become a allstar befor nash gets there and once he gets there and the team has success, yet no one acknowledge the hard work you put in during the summers and gave the credit to someone sles, you would be a little pissed also. I'm not making excuses, I'm just saying there is a reason why Joe Johnson was ready to go. I never said Marion would or could replace Tracy, I just said if the rox can get marion, that's the best value they will get without knocking them out 2010 and the playoffs this year. How have the heat fared without shaq even though people talk of wades greatness? Marion is a good player and would be a good player for the rox in place of mcgrady. Is he as impactful as tracy? No, but when healthy, tracy has a bigger impact on the game than all but a handfull of players in the entire league. That's a hard act to follow.
     
  3. Nolocke

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    All I am asking everyone to do is look at the last 5 games with and without T-mac here in 2009. Our team with T-mac in the lineup got owned by Toronto, get beat by Philly, then almost get beat by the worst team in the league even though he scored 26 points. It wouldn't have mattered how many points he scored he could have scored all the teams points but the point is our team has no chemistry when he is on the court because he freaking won't be consistent with his play time.

    So what happens?

    Our team when T-mac is out of the line up has almost beat the Atlanta Hawks in a down to the wire shoot out which had it not been for Bibby making that 3 probably would have been a win for us, then took down Boston in their house who of course are the Championship winners last year and rarely lose at home, then we come home and man handle the New York Knicks. So can someone please tell me why in the hell do we need a 21 million dollar player if he isn't making us any better of a team. For those of you that like showboaters I'm sure you don't care about team chemistry but I can tell you that we won't be winning any playoff series unless they can either get T-mac to play consecutive straight games or trade his ass for someone who wants to be a team player. Chemistry is what wins games, playoffs, and championships and if anyone can honestly say that this team looked better when McGrady was on the floor for this team they really need to think about it before they start the typing.
     
  4. bratna8

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    TMac lovers please answer this question so I can stop my desire on trading him.....please make it good. Don't give me the (He's always carried us in the playoffs bull.....cause to me carried means actually helping us get past the first round).

     
  5. BMoney

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    Fair enough.
     
  6. engr_alex

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    i dont understand why people keep saying tmac is a ballstopper or that he disrupts the flow of the game.

    he is not a ballstopper. when he catches the ball, everyone else just stops. they dont cut, they dont move. they wait on tmac to attack the basket or jack up a shot. it's not tmac's fault. if you were his teammates you're free to cut to the basket or keep on moving, unfortunately they dont. instead they clear up, and they dont move/position themselves for a rebound. so when tmac misses, the other team gets the rebound. how is that tmac's fault? first you criticize tmac for taking too many shots, and then you criticize him for not taking any (raptors game).

    i watched ron's games. it's either he jacks up shots (wide open three which is good), a contested leaning to the left jumper (which is ok because he can make it at times) or he ISOs someone(which is great). the only time i see him pass is when he sets up yao down low or when he passes out of a broken play. it's the same as tmac's game, only he plays defense while tmac plays offense (playmaker). that's what stars are supposed to do. get the ball and take a wide open shot or a contested one.same as yao ming. theyre there to dominate the offense. otherwise, what's their purpose on a team?
     
  7. badgerfan

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    Kind of makes sense. I've got a feeling most locker room issues are kept under wraps unless they reach critical mass.
     
  8. badgerfan

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    Why do the other Rockets stop moving? It could be a chicken and egg type of issue where they expect that T-Mac's not going to pass the ball. If that's the case, why cut?
     
  9. badgerfan

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    Yao not taking enough shots stretches back to Van Gundy, so the idea that it's Adelman's fault is ridiculous.

    If Doc Rocket's right then my guess is that T-Mac's career with the Rockets is drawing to a close.
     
  10. pippendagimp

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    After reading this thread again, this whole situation really sounds like Doc Rivers Part II.
     
  11. ThaBlackKnight

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    I did read it, and the article, and from what I can see, Blinebury is just calling out Tmac when he's hurt. Its really easy to pick on somebody when they are not capable of playing at a high level because of injuries. What problem do you have with my post and my opinion??
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    See, I guess this is one of the key points that divide the board. I don't think Tmac is hurt at all.

    I think he is dogging it to prove some point.

    DD
     
  13. HowsMyDriving

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    if you don't know the answer to that already then you haven't read the thread.
     
  14. HowsMyDriving

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    and where it gets really interesting is when the conversation becomes - is he the only one doing so?
     
  15. DaDakota

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    IMO, no, I think Artest and he have reached some sort of ....I play, you play agreement.

    I have no data, that is just how it looks to me.

    As such, I think the Artest stress reaction is probably just the teams way of shelving him for a bit.....and I expect them to do the same to Tmac if he continues to dog it.

    Personally, I think Adelman has been far too weak, and he has let the kids run wild and it is costing the rest of the team.

    If the team had strong player leadership, it would not be happening, but they don't.....there is no Jordan in the clubhouse demanding effort....to me, this is one of my biggest dissappointments in Yao, he should be demanding effort.....who cares if his teamates don't like him calling them out....just step up and lead big fella.

    DD
     
  16. Riz

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    Yes this issue divides the board indeed but I think the overwhelming majority is against tmac's action this season or lack thereof and are for trading tmac.
    it's better to take the cancer out in early stage before it destroys the whole body.


    To prove this point, to really see where this board really stands we should have a poll. 80%/20% Against.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    I am not sure it matters what people think right now...it is what it is...and I believe we as fans are along for a very bumpy ride.

    So much promise this year, I hope the guys can pull together, but sometimes divorce is for the good of everyone involved.

    DD
     
  18. ROXTXIA

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    It's a fairly strong division on the board. More than a few posters think Tmac walks on water---when he's, oops, sorry, when He's not hurt---and many of us know in our heart of hearts that he's dogging it and dragging down the rest of the team.
     
  19. ibm

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    keep eyes open and focused on yao? this has got me worried, really worried.

    i sense what happens to this team in the next month or so will be critical to its success (or failure) this year.
     
  20. IamKhan

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    This is my GUESS on what happened:

    TMac has no problems to be a co star of this team with Yao, but he's not happy that he cannot get the same Yao's special treatments.

    1: Coach A decided that Yao could skip some practices so he could play more games. TMac might have asked for the same treatments and got rejected.

    2: Coach A had to modify his offense to integrate Yao's low post games(two seasons in a row), but it seems he's not willing to make any compromise with TMac's offense style.

    3: The media and fans have much more favorite views of Yao than Tmac.

    4: The contract extension, Yao's guaranteed 100% while there's no talk about TMac's

    so Tmac is not happy with the coaching staff, and is jealous of Yao.
     

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