I know. Stupid question on my part. Doh! I just figured somebody has seen something at the drop point and/or they slip up doing that. Then, it may start to unravel. I also think that Bin Laden probably is not in the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area. It's possible but there is no proof he is there that I'm aware of. I think it would be very nice for him to feel like everyone thought he was there but he's actually somewhere else. I guess Kerry plans on sending in the special ops folks all over the mountains to smoke him out like GWB was supposed to do? Call me in 10 years when OBL dies of natural causes. LOL.
"John Davidson, president of Partner Re Asset Management Corp., said, in commenting on bin Laden's threats, that "if the markets were open, it would be a temporary downward impact, then dissipate." http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuo...tfh68731_2004-10-29_21-59-36_n29573551_newsml
The markets responded positively to the existence of the tapes. Trading was still ongoing when they got word that the bin Laden tape existed. Take a look at the intraday chart.
ok fine...listen to idiots on cnbc i could care less. you called them talking heads correctly...all they do is talk blah blah blah. make sure you listen to jim kramer's picks while you are at it too. he has been at this a lot longer than me....it doesn't mean he knows what the hell he is talking about. institutions didn't start pouring money into the market just based on another tape. did the $DFX (defense index) breakout of its boring friday range based on the tape? no. did that tape fundamentally change anything? no. the market hardly even moved. the QQQ couldn't breakout of the range it set in the morning. it was only traders. sorry if you want to disagree but that's just the facts.
OBL fit and healthy speaking on a rather high quality tape in front of a lectern threatening to attack the US right before the election… Maybe if the new tape showed a scraggly man speaking on grainy tape from a cave this wouldn’t be such a huge deal. The fact that OBL looks like he is at the local university giving a lecture demonstrates his complete lack of concern with US military action anytime soon. This is and the Halliburton investigation put Bush in a tough situation just days before the vote. I think this is the 'October Surprise'.
<img src = 'http://money.cnn.com/ssi/BC/markets-data/dow.gif'> I see three upswings in the Dow...while it may have played a role I seriously doubt many traders would hold a long position going into THIS weekend just based on this tape.
In a rather strange development, it turns out that there was a lot more on the bin Laden video tape than al Jazeera originally released. Most strange, if you ask me. Here it is, and a tip of the hat to TraJ, who first posted it, although not in this thread.. Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S. Al-Jazeera releases full transcript of al Qaeda leader's tape (CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy. Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday. "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript. He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers." "We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said. He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration." "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said. Al-Jazeera executives said they decided to post the entire speech because rumors were circulating that the network omitted parts that "had direct threats toward specific states, which was totally untrue." "We chose the most newsworthy parts of the address and aired them. The rest was used in lower thirds in graphics format," said one official. U.S. intelligence officials Monday confirmed that the transcript made public Monday by Al-Jazeera was a complete one. As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States. "Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars. The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department. "It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced. "And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy." As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America. "So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said. U.S. government officials said Friday that the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made. It was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/index.html Keep D&D Civil!!
They actually said when it came out last week that the whte house had requested that they not release the full transcript yet. Wel OBL's plan seems to be working so far, although i doubt that was his original plan. If so he seems to have outsmarted a lot of people
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm Here's a full English-version transcript of the tape. Pretty fascinating read, IMO.
The state to state thing is bogus. In fine Arabic it means national 'state'. In other dialects it can mean either state in a country or national state, and there is a seperate word for the national state. OBL has always spoken in fine Arabic. That state state to claim, isn't anything to worry about.
i was actually trying to be a bit sarcastic. i'm not worried about Texas (or any other "state" for that matter.) go kerry.
Sorry about that. BBS sarcasm shouldn't be that hard to tell, but too many times before I was sure somebody was being sarcastic when they were serious. I'm probably just pumped about the election in debate mode.
Kerry is potentially making promises he cannot keep. He says he is going to get OBL. How does he plan to do that? Is he going to lead a special ops team into Pakistan? I think he is full of sh*t making promises like that.
I just wish Kerry wouldn't make promises he cannot keep. While I think he may make an acceptable president, why would he make statements like that other than to garner more votes? That makes me think he is spewing a bunch of campaign BS. What else is he claiming he is going to do but not be able to do then? I have a hard time trusting him when he makes statements like that when he really doesn't have a clue if he can achieve that goal or not. I guess that is no different than what Bush says but...still...I thought Kerry was supposed to be better than Bush?
