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New Ala. gov: Just Christians are his family

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DCkid, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. thegary

    thegary Member

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    yes he was in church, but he was still the governor and speaking in a public forum. it is indicative of a segregated view of the people of his state. even if he feels that way, he should never utter it publicly.
     
  2. MadMax

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    I have more problems with this as a follower of Jesus than I do as a citizen.
     
  3. thegary

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    fair enuf max, but no matter how you slice it, he's got a faith-based, jim crow view of people.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    White Alabaman governor goes to religious facility dedicated to christian civil rights leader, calls parishoners brothers and sisters. This might be the dumbest article I've ever skimmed over.
     
  5. MadMax

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    agreed..that's what bothers me. i don't see Jesus in that. i'm tired of the Church trying so damn hard to be what Jesus wasn't...worried more about its own security and self-preservation than changing the world with love.
     
  6. ChievousFTFace

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    Mad Max = Hulk Hogan? ;)

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  7. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    Really? You got all that just from an article saying he called parishioners at a church he was speaking at "brothers and sisters?"
     
  8. MadMax

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    i was really hoping you fellas wouldn't figure that out.
     
  9. DCkid

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    I think the point of contention is him stating that anyone who is not Christian "is not my brother and sister." Comes across as somewhat alienating, no?
     
  10. SamFisher

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    No, he got it from these quotes:
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    This story has been around for a few days now, and his office had to releae a statement trying to undo the damage yesterday - at no time did he or his staff suggest he didn't say what the Birmingham Post reported.

    Simply because you're not familiar with it doesn't mean there's a media conspiracy as you seem to be implying.
     
  11. justtxyank

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    I'm sure it is an extension of "brother and sister in Christ" a phrase used to describe fellow believers.

    If you do not believe in Jesus Christ, you are literally NOT his brother or sister in Christ because you do not not believe it.

    "All of you who are a member of Sigma Phi Epsilon are my brothers and sisters. Those of you who are not members are not my brother or sister!"

    Is that Jim Crow segregationist rhetoric also?
     
  12. ChievousFTFace

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    Now what would happen if he had a jewish brother? Would his brother not be his brother? OH MY?!
     
  13. thadeus

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    If that guy was my brother I'd be worried that we might have a r****ded gene in our family, so it's all good that he's not my brother.
     
  14. da_juice

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    This.
     
  15. ChievousFTFace

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    Considering that he's from Alabama... your brother might also be your father.
     
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  16. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, there's this thing called 'context' that is missing from this story. We have no idea what he said immediately before or after these quotes. I'm guessing it was something besides "Only Christians are my family. Thank you very much, have a safe drive home."

    Probably because he DID say it.

    Oh, please. I'm sorry I'm not as up to speed on this "issue" as you, Mr. Woodward. What additional info do you have on this story besides the info in the article?

    And I didn't say anything about any grand conspiracy. Just that the media does have a tendency to make a mountain out of a molehill on occasion. I think this is one of those occasions.
     
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    As long as he loves his neighbor as much as himself, sells all he has and gives it to the poor, takes the log out of his own eye, lends to him who asks him expecting nothing in return, turns his cheek when he is criticized, visits those in prison, help widows, and gives food and water to the worst citizens in town who have none, does not lust in his thoughts, loves those who mock him, is absolutely truthful, and treats his wife and family with dignity and respect... he can be my brother :)
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Well, you have the quotes, what OTHER context can there possibly be, other than a message of inclusion to Christians and one of exclusion to non-Christians?

    I'm not saying his conduct is a violation of the establishment clause or anything like that - but interpreting it as a message of inclusion/exclusion is certainly reasonable and does not seem out of context at all. (Out of context would be something like the Shirley Sherrod screwjob from last year)

    If he had said afterward something like - "while you are not my brothers in my faith, you're my brothers as fellow citizens and as governor blah blah blah", that would be a bit of missing needed context here, but there's siimply no evidence of that occurring, and even the governor himself isn't making that claim.
     
  19. thegary

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    i am hakeem olajuwon, houston rocket, you are karl malone, utah jazz, you are not my brother. see, that's okay, we're talking basketball, a game. are you equating a fraternity with the house of god?
     
  20. DCkid

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    So in that case when he says he "wants Non-Christians to be his brother" he's saying he wants them to be Christians, correct?

    If I were a non-Christian in Alabama (30% of the population) I would feel uneasy about that.
     

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