Nets trying to include Pistons in 3-team trade for Anthony

Never said they did or that they would even be interested, and neither would the Rockets.

Harrington is an offensive minded SF who is disguised as a PF who plays subpar defense, bad rebounder, and doesn't block any shots. You do the math.

He did kill the Rockets when they played them earlier in the season but so did Patty Mills.... doesn't say much.

 

Dude we're totally lottery bound (we're not that far off from being in the top 10), the nuggets aren't getting crap from that pick anytime soon. We're going to be pretty bad for a while...

 

Except I have a hard time believing Morey would trade the Rocket's first rounder this summer, More than likely there is nothing from the Knicks roster he covets other than Amare.

Randolph is a possibility but the Rockets 2011 pick could be too valuable to give up for just him. The way it looks now, the Rockets pick could sit around the top 10 with a little luck. Might be more valuable than Randolph when the dust settles.

Also im not 100% sure, but I dont think he can tradeback just the pick swap, and not their own pick. Bima might need to clarify what exactly they can do with a pick swap.

 

Even if you're right, the first year that the Rockets DO make it back to the playoffs (which will hopefully be before 2017), that pick is more likely to be in the 16-19 range than in the 26-30 range.

That's all I'm saying.

 

Agreed with those saying Denver needs to shut up and make a move already.

Look, we get it: you're losing a top 10 player and you're understandably not happy about it. That still doesn't mean you're ENTITLED to anything because of it (hell, ask Cleveland). Your job is to find the best possible deal you can get and in all likelihood you have it. Stalling, changing your conditions and constantly trying to sweeten the pot is only going to burn bridges.

 

Bima, what are the rules for the Rockets as far as trading the 2011 pick or just the pick swap back to New York. Could they just deal the swap back without the pick etc....???

 

Cleveland recieved this for Lebron

two first-round draft picks and two second-round picks, as well as a large trade exception, for James. The first-round picks could be between 2013 and 2017. The second-round picks are in 2012 (acquired from New Orleans) and a future pick acquired from Oklahoma City. For some reason, the Cavs will have the option to swap 2012 first-round picks with the Heat as well. The trade exception can be used within one year.

-Note that With this massive trade exception, Cleveland might very well be willing to make a huge splash next month or during the offseason by taking advantage of financially strickin teams. Cleveland might suck right now, but they could be back in the mix sooner than later.

-As for Denver. Denver wants to maximize their deal understandably, but they should have made an initial offer as high priced as it might be and stick with it.

By trying to change the deal at the last minute they are hurting the credibility of their front office and it could be alot harder for other teams to work with them in the future.

The ideal situation for Denver to trade Melo would be at the trade deadline, given they are still winning games and in the playoff mix.

 

Exactly, I hope Denver gets jack ***** now.

 

Sweet it seems this can finally come to an end!!

Come on Nets, GET it done!!! :grin:

 

I honestly think Denver, NJ, and NY are trying to get Houston involved in one way or another. We've already helped NJ when we took T-Will off their hands. Denver is trying to use Houston as leverage against NJ because we would trade for a rentalmelo at the right price. NY is trying to do anything possible to make Melo wait till after the season. I don't see Melo passing up that money...

 

If Melo goes to Nets he's screwed. Billups, Hamilton, Melo, Lopez is nice but no where close to contending. That's not good enough in the East these days (Boston, Orlando, Miami). They'll only get older next year and the year after (Billups and Rip are 34 and 32 already). They have no future prospects and no draft picks.

If Melo waits it out and goes to NY as unrestricted FA, he leaves ton of money on the table. So he's screwed there as well.

If Melo seriously wants to go to NY (pair up with Amare, and possibly CP3 one year later), then he should flat out rejected this current trade by saying he won't resign and say he'll only resign with Knicks and see if Denver calls his bluff (ps. they won't).

 

And coast himself millions? With a new CBA Melo doesn't have the flexibility that you think he does. If I were a team I would call his bluff.

The Nets won't be contenders with Melo but the Knicks won't be either.

 

Who he signs with will really say alot about his character, if he gets traded to the Nets and sign the extension, he's in it for the monwy. If he bolts and teams up with Amar'e, then he's serious about winning. My concern, is I don't know how well Melo fits with the Knicks' system.

 

Knicks would be a ton better than the Nets after the proposed trade.

Amare, Melo, Gallanari, Chandler, Felton, Fields, Randolph >>>>>>> Billups, Melo, Rip, Lopez

Even if you strip apart the Knicks giving away Gallanari, Chandler, Randolph, Fields, etc.... and keep Felton (since Billups is staying),

Amare, Melo, Felton, *any bench scrub ie. Turiaf* >>> Billups, Mello, Rip, Lopez

 

Yes, but the only question is.. What does Morey really want out of getting involved with these two teams that he can ACTUALLY get without renting Melo??? If he is still actively involved in these discussions, what is he looking to get out of this???

-Nene??... - not likely - **
-Favors??? - more probable, but still not likely -***
-Lopez?? - not a chance - *
-Keep Melo away from New York to increase value of 2012 pick?? - ****
- Draft considerations - ****

 

Again, if he wasnt serious about signing longterm with the Nets, and didnt want to win, why would his agent broker a deal for NJ that got other players to NJ (Rip & Billups) to help them as well as get himself the max deal?

 

Yeah, they will be better assuming Melo signs with them as a FA and they don't have to trade anything to get him. But again, that requires Melo to take a hefty paycut. And the Knicks still won't be contenders in the East.

 

His broker/agent, and NJ just reeking of desperation. Doesn't matter their intent, that team is not good enough vs the elite teams in the East.

 

Have you seen the way Amare has been playing this season? Have you seen the way Carmelo's been playing? Amare and Carmelo would be what us Rockets fans wished Mcgrady and Yao would be.

They would definitely be instant contenders and if not, definitely by next year since they have two superstars to build around. If the Knicks have those two, role players will soon come (think Miami). Apparently if this comes to fruition, there are rumors of CP3 possibly joining them to form a new Big 3. Now that's a contender!

Now look at NJ, what do they have? What's their BEST CASE scenario?? Probably Billups, Rip, Lopez, Melo in Year 1. Billups and Rip aren't getting any younger and Lopez will improve but that improvement will be offset by Billups and Rips decline. They no longer have any pieces to improve the team, so basically the Nets will be STUCK.

 

Yes but his agent Rose works in the best interest of his client?? right??.. why would he broker deals with New Jersey if his client only wanted to go to New York?? Leverage???.. for New York to deplete their roster trying to get him??? Doesn't make sense unless Melo is serious about going to New Jersey.