Nets trying to include Pistons in 3-team trade for Anthony

Another thing that I don´t understand, do you guys really like this trade for Denver????

They lose a fan favorite in Billups, even if you think he is a bad contract, people in Denver love "Mr BIG Shot".

Ben Uzoh, Stephen Graham, Quinton Ross, EXPIRINGS, no value

Anthony Morrow, a player that I really like, BUT, why does Denver need another SG they will go with Arron Afflalo which they should, because he plays both ends, so the value of Morrow is reduced, SG isn´t a team need.

Devin Harris why the F does Denver need him???? Wasn't Denver suppose to trade Billups so that they could play Lawson??? So why trade a guy that has 2 years in his contract, for a guy that has 3 years??? For me Devin Harris has negative value for Denver in this trade proposal.

2 1sts, so I guess this is great, people listen to 2 1st round draft picks, and they get excited, but I have questions. These 2 picks are NJN picks??? If not, from who are they???
Without knowing the answer from these 2 questions, do you think 2 15# plus picks have great value???? This next draft class is going to be weak after the 10 pick, very weak in fact. For me, these 2 picks hold very litle value.

And then comes what, "supposedly" is the BIG fish, MR. Favors. If I was a hater, I would easily say that this kid is averaging X in y mins, in a mediocre team, but because I am not, I admit that he needs time, he is young, he is definitely promising, BUT, don´t you think that trading a franchise player for a very hight risk value player is almost risking your life for the next 5 years on a very very unstable unfinished product???
I remember when the T. Wolves traded Garnett for Big AL, by then, people where saying that AL had a bright future ahead of him, I would say that his risk was much lower then what Favors is right now, the T.wolves were expecting a franchise player..... But look what happened.
I am not saying Jeferson is trash, I like him, but he is not a franchise guy.

But you will say, yes, but even if Favors is not a franchise guy, he will be a good player, no doubt about that. but, he could also be a mediocre one. Just look at how he plays. People before this years draft said that Cousins was a much hight risk kind of player, I actually don´t agree, I think Favors is, the only problem Cousins has is mental, and that, comes with age, he is just immature. Favors is more mature, but is not as fundamentally rich as Cousins, he is a guy that will depend his performance in physical dominance, and that is the only reason people compare him to D12.

And look at what d12 was obliged to work on. FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS OF HIS GAME. And d12 is a C, for me, Favors will be a PF playing like a C.

This post is not about bashing the trade proposal, the point is that, this proposal is not THAT GOOD, so you can definitely see Melo saying no to this, and say for example, I want to go to a better team, and that team would easily manage a trade package almost as good as this one, IMO

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DUde....you have to understand that Melo is going to leave after his contract expire regardless so why not just get something in return? Ibeleive this is the best offer Denver can get by far.

 

There are better offers besides the Nets offer, IMO.
I think the Magic and Rockets can offer a better package, maybe less draft picks. But better players ...

 

can u beat favors?

 

Nuggets won't give Melo to a Western-Conference rival, Rockets won't get him.

 

What level do you think Favors is/going to be???

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Multiple All-Star if he get's his head right.

 

yo homie, i tellin' ya derrick favors is a stud, he gonna b all star one day yo

 

Don´t tell me all-star.... being an all-star player is about popularity, tell me someone that represents the level he will be.

And what is the probability of the "get´s is head right" thing to happen????

There are alot of talented players that were in the NBA, and most of them (the ones that didn´t reach the max value they could), you could say, "if he get´s his head right".

Look, Favors has the physical tools, but he lacks Basketball Fundamental, he is as young as they come, so there is no doubt he has the time, but right now, his value as a baller is not that great, and the word potential is as uncertain as any other.

Once again, it is not about bashing that trade proposal, this is ALSO about what Melo thinks about the future of the Nets.

Tell me a reason why would Melo think:

Brook Lopez - Big Z
Humphries - Bosh
Melo - LBJ
Rip - Wade
Billups - Arroyo

The Nets would even win 1 game in a series???

Would they have assets to trade for Melo´s friend CP3???? NO
Would they have enough cap to sign CP3 with Rip and Outlaw making 20M????

My point is not that team A has a better trade proposal than what NJN is offering, my point, is that this package is not THAT GREAT for Denver, and because there is a BIG probability that Melo would say NO to resigning a contract extension with the Nets (based on how unlikely that this team would make some noise in the playoffs or could go after CP3), it would not be a problem for Denver to accept another package (yup, I mean it).

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I agree. Can't see Melo signing an extension in NJ.

 

I couldn't either but if his agent is trying to involve other clients, then I think he will. His agent knows or at least thinks he can talk Melo into it which he probably has a better than 50/50 chance if he's any kind of agent.

 

Considering Melo's agent is pushing this deal too, it seems a no-brainer that Melo will extend.

To me, it's obvious that Melo wants to play somewhere flashy, and that it's at least somewhat competitive. NJ will do that for him. He'll go to the playoffs likely for the duration of the contract, perhaps 2nd round once or twice. And he gets to have JayZ and Russian Billionaire as his buddies. Seems like a pretty good life to me.

Overall, from the Rockets perspective, I maintain that it basically raises the Knicks 2012 pick up about 10 slots. Right now, that looks somewhere between 10 and 20. When it could've conceivably been the late 20s had NY landed Melo.

That, and Melo going to the East makes this an excellent trade for the Rockets.

 

Which is why Ive been saying all along that the Terrence Williams trade was more about the Melo trade then TWilliams and the pick. No way this trade would go down if New Jersey couldnt trade consecutive picks. Since the 2012 pick is Houston's pick, they can trade that one along with their 2011 pick. That is the only reason this deal was able to take shape. Denver would not deal without consecutive picks and Favors.

With the lineup that will be constructed through this trade, and a veteran PG like Billups at the helm, they should at least be the 7th or 8 seed in the East. Do not forget that they are only 5 games out of the playoffs as of right now with only 10 wins on the season. Plus, Billups could be flipped before the trade deadline for other assets as well if he makes it known that he is not happy in NJ.

 

Don't see it that way. I think Leon Rose is doing everything he can to get Melo to NY. And don't be surprised if he comes calling to Houston to help make it happen. If Melo goes to NJ and takes his extension, he is proving that money really was more important to him than the best winning destination. He ideally wants to be in NY with his extension. If he goes to NJ, he is settling for his extension over playing for the Knicks.

When you look at the Knicks, what player seriously interested in winning and wanting to win over everything else, wouldn't want to sign with them as a max free agent after this season. Add Melo to Amare, Gallinari, Chandler, Fields, Felton, that's a much better team than Melo, Lopez, and whatever else they can gather up. It makes no sense unless Melo is really making sure he gets his money and he prefers his money over having the ultimate chance to compete for championships year after year.

 

Quality of life is way more important than some ring no one will care about a few years after it happens (if it happens). There's only so many years a player has to earn an income, he wont play basketball forever.

It would be crazy not to extend before the new CBA.

 

Denver never does learn? Such greedy little children. Hammer out a deal, everyone agrees....and then they reneg and want the pot sweetened.

I hope this franchise is cursed for decades and the Nets tear up the east.

 

Who knows what's really going on behind the scenes, but from the outside it looks like Denver doesn't really know what it's doing. Also, is it Masai Ujiri who's calling the shots or Kroenke?

 

Portland is high on Harris , so they will probably flip Harris for Batuum in portland with a pick.......if they are smart, thats what they will do.

 

Denver just need's to go ahead and sign off no this deal, while its still on the table. Because there will be no better offer than Derrick Favors(franchise saving talent) + other young talent and draft picks for Anthony and Billups. I mean Derrick Favors is going to be a big star in this league, I can see him and Griffin going at each other for title of the best PF for the next decade!

They'll rivalry could be the new KG vs. Duncan or Barkley vs. Malone...