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Nets, Nuggets have tentative agreement on Melo

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ItsMyFault, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. rockets934life

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    Looks like Denver is ready to deal and both NY and Jersey have their offers ready. Now it's up to Melo to decide where he wants to go and Denver will get that package.
     
  2. dobro1229

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    Obviously Felton and Nene are two very tradeable assets that could be on another seperate deal before its all said and done.

    Those two(Nene & Felton) would probably not be considered long term players on their team of the future anyways. Felton is just a wonderful asset they could flip basically.

    With that roster after the trade I would expect Nene to be the first player to be dealt. Wouldn't be surprised if the Rockets were "intrigued" with Nene and Felton in a seperate package deal.
     
  3. rockets934life

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    Thing is, for me, Billups isn't going to work well in D'Antoni's system. He is much more of a half court floor general and at his age would struggle with the up and down pace. Denver scores a lot but runs tons of iso-oriented plays.

    I would worry about that and also Melo getting involved in the offense. Both of those guys are prime time players and getting used playing together with hardly any time to prepare will hurt them. Look at Miami, with a whole offseason, preseason and first month, they were still only 9-8. Another example is Clyde with the Rockets, took him the whole second half to get into the flow of the offense. Luckily the Rockets only gave up their power forward and not 3/5ths of their starting lineup.
     
  4. dobro1229

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    NY has the trade hanging on Gallo. Which is pointless IMO from NY's side because how much PT is Gallo going to get behind Melo and Amare?? I would rather have the deal be on hold because of Fields, but it seems like they are more open to including Fields which doesn't make sense to me.
     
  5. thething

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    How is the market higher than the Knicks offer? Chicago won't offer that much. Dallas and Houston won't offer that much. So who would?

    Also, the Nuggets never rejected the offer I mentioned earlier with both Gallo and Fields. The Knicks never even offered that much. They wanted to only give away one of those two.
     
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    Agree with you on Gallinari, unless D'Antoni were to play him and Melo at the same time a lot. It could work on offense and give Gallinari a lot of open 3s. But if all he does is back Melo up, he isn't valuable to the Knicks.

    Therefore, the plan must be to play them together a lot.
     
  7. The Situation

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    Lol at the Knicks
     
  8. dobro1229

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    I think you would be surprised at Billups running that offense. Billups was instrumental in running coach K's open court/fast paced offense this past summer for team USA. That style is very similar to D'Antoni's system.

    Billups to me AS A PLAYER is a coin flip though, but his contract is very attractive to alot of teams because of the team option this summer.

    If Billups is motivated to win the rest of the season, he is still a very good floor general and great 3pt. shooter. Which is pretty much all he would be doing offensively in D'Antoni's system anyways.
     
  9. dobro1229

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    The point is, Gallo shouldn't be instrumental in getting the deal done. Melo/Amare is the superstar combo that will bring alot of other players to their team in free agency anyways. Gallo wouldn't have an All-Star future with the Knicks.
     
  10. rockets934life

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    I agree, truthfully I think he isn't going to be a deal breaker. Walsh is trying to see how far he can go without giving up the farm much like he did with the Rockets last year. Eventually, it will come down to Gallo for Melo and Walsh will pull the trigger or if not Walsh...Dolan.
     
  11. A_3PO

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    Gallo doesn't need an All-Star future to be an effective player for the Knicks. He's worth hanging on to until the last second and then giving up if that's what it takes to close the deal.
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    Fair enough. I agree Anthony is worth it if the picks must be included. Just wondering about the necessity.

    As for Anthony, his strategy had seemed to make sense, but doesn't seem to still make sense to me. By refusing meetings with NJ, he can hold out hope that Denver will trade with NY but not burn bridges with NJ by telling them no and getting stuck in Denver. At this point though, it seems like Denver is going to be willing to trade with NY if the deal with NJ falls through, and right now Denver is using Anthony's equivocation to play the teams off each other to raise the price. A high price isn't good for Anthony who has to play with the decimated winner.

    What he should be doing now is to say NY or Bust and submarine the NJ deal. Denver then has to do a deal with NY without the leverage of a NJ trade and their BATNA is decreased to the rental offers or keeping Anthony for the rest of the season. Anthony could then play for the team he wants at the price he wants without losing too many teammates as long as NY can offer something to Denver that is better than rental offers and no trade at all. NY can do that easily enough. Denver is not going to sacrifice another season after sacrificing this one to get rid of Anthony, and they aren't going to get a better deal for Anthony in the offseason than they can get from NY right now. And, Anthony doesn't need to wait to pull the trigger on that; he could do it right now and have everything he wanted. The only thing he loses is some public good will (which he's slowly bleeding out right now) for taking a prima donna stance. What am I missing?
     
  13. dobro1229

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    Unfortunately, though if the Knicks agree to the deal in principle, the Nuggets will change their requests and add something else to the deal.

    Deal wont go down until 11:58AM Friday morning. All other deals will have 2 minutes to work out before the deadline basically.

    Most Likely the Rockets wont be able to make a deal till the summer because of the Nuggets posturing. Amateur hour it is.
     
  14. dobro1229

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    Gallo's production off of the bench could easily be replaced with a veteran aquired in the summer. Lots of veterans can shoot 3's and guard small forwards.

    Gallo should secretly be wanting to be part of the deal if it was to go down so he would have the opportunity to grow with another team.

    The deal is going down till the last second anyways, so anything to stall the deal till the deadline is good for the Knicks. If they agree in principle then the Nuggets will change their proposal.

    Still Gall shouldnt be instrumental in NOT getting the deal done when its all said and done.
     
  15. BimaThug

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    Hahahaha!!! This is one of the dumbest strategies I have ever heard! Why would the Nuggets agree to ANY (reasonably conceivable) deal with New York if they know they can get Melo to agree to talk with the Nets simply by NOT working out a deal with the Knicks.

    If I'm the Nuggets, I'm scuttling those talks with New York any way I can.
     
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  17. Carl Herrera

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    The whole Melo situation is one big Mexican standoff.

    Except there are no big Mexicans involved.


    Looks like the Nugs are using the Nets as leverage. Melo's probably in on it, too. He wants to go to NY in a trade, not at a reduced price as a FA. Knicks prefer having him as FA (no loss of talent, cheaper, too) so they need to be nudged into giving up more to satisfy Denve.
     
  18. rockets934life

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    Everyone is waiting on Melo, Rockets included. When Melo is a Net, Knick or Nugget the flood gates will open up. Should be a fun 6 days. Can't post tweets right now but Wojo basically said this was the thought among GMs in LA right now.
     
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    WojYahooNBA [rquoter]Front office execs wading through lobby all asking: When does Melo deal happen so we can make our moves? So much else revolves around it. Many teams want to make runs at Melo's Denver sidekicks -- Nene, J.R. Smith -- but they don't move until Anthony does. [/rquoter]
     
  20. heypartner

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    Because the Nuggets rejected the Knicks offer for being too low, and we can be sure Melo would sign with NY. So, the market is higher.
     

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