2011 first round draft pick from Utah Utah’s own 2011 first round pick to Minnesota (top 16 protected in the 2011 draft, top 14 protected in 2012 and top 12 protected in the 2013 draft). If Utah has not conveyed a first round pick to Minnesota by 2014 and also if Utah’s own 2014 first round is not within the top 9 picks, then Minnesota will have the option to swap their own 2014 first round pick with Utah’s own 2014 first round pick. If Minnesota does not receive a first round pick by the 2013 draft and also does not swap 2014 first round picks with Utah, then Minnesota will receive Utah’s own 2014 second round pick. [Minnesota - Utah, 7/13/2010] http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed From Kahn's perspective (assuming he doesn't have a better offer for his cap space), they swap Brewer for Randolph and a little cash. I don't agree with this trade from Minnesota's perspective, but at least it is somewhat defensible.
If Nugs deal with Knets they seemingly deal Nene. After Knets package they would want _____? If Nugs deal with Nix and they get Mozgrov (the Russian F Weis) they seemingly deal Nene. After Nix package they would want _____? If Nugs deal with Nix withOUT Mozgrov (the Russian F Weis) they might not deal Nene? These scenaria affect the Rox ... how?
Seems to me like Kahn loves to get players at the same position. First Beasley now they have AR? Where will AR play? Not to mention Wesley Johnson or the bagillion forwards they have on the roster. Anyway I think its another massive case of buy high sell low for Kahn.Brewer's an underrated piece and IMHO just a few notches below Courtney Lee in terms of being a two-way player.
If Nugs are asking for everything + the kitchen sink for anthony, that leaves the Knicks extremely thin at every position. The major haul-over of their roster + any type of injury to either star will result in the knicks being the wade+d-leaguer of the week miami heat from a few years back. If i was denver, i'd be bitter about the way this whole thing has been dragged out. if they were really smart, i can see them setting up melo and the knicks for failure for years to come. there's hope for our NY picks.
Not sure how you can not like this deal for Minnesota. Unless there's a better offer for their capspace this deal is a no brainer. Brewer isn't in their long term plans and they have a million young wing players anyway. The cash covers Curry's remaning contract, so in essence it's a Brewer for Randolph swap. Now you may not be a Randolph guy, but Brewer simply isn't very good. I woudn't want him on my team for free. Maybe that's just me though.
Uh, has it not been Nugs who have gone to the brink a dozen times then said, 'Wait, there's more...we want!' Nugs look like a$$e$ IMHO regardless of how this turns out.
They look like a$$e$ because they cannot close a deal. We want this. OK, you got it. Uh, no, now we want that. OK, you got it. That's been going on all season. Make up your minds and move forward. Pennies on the $? The closest (rumored) deal to equity was Bynum. Favors and 4 #1s is pennies? It's real difficult to trade a superstar in an equitable transaction. It's even harder for Denver management to close a deal. If I were a competing NBA team I would be very very reluctant to negotiate with Nugs. The Rox have a better team on the floor than Nugs' have a front office team.
I would agree if they were actually getting something good in return. Supposedely LA said no and Melo said no to NJ. They aren't stopping the NJ deal from going down, Melo is. And I have no issue with them continuing to try to get more from a team that is trying to fleece them simply because they think they can get their star for little to nothing this offseason. The rumored packages from NY have been crap truth be told. Average players and a pick 3 years from now. If it were Morey you would want him to keep demanding more too. Didn't we keep going back and forth with NY as well before surprisingly giving then the finger at the last second with the Martin deal just to come back and get what we wanted?
Looks like it's back to the Knicks as of early this morning according to Yahoo Sports. Let's hope this time is final so we can move to acquiring Nene.Mon Feb 21 06:02am EST Anthony moving to Knicks? By Mark J. Miller A deal between the New York Knicks and Denver Nuggets that will send Carmelo Anthony(notes) to the Big Apple is beginning to look more and more probable, according to the Denver Post. "The teams talked through the weekend and are working out the final details of what would be a blockbuster trade," the paper reports. According to the Post, the "latest trade offer" will have the Knicks losing guard Raymond Felton(notes), forwards Wilson Chandler(notes) and Danilo Gallinari(notes), centers Timofey Mozgov(notes) and Eddy Curry(notes), and a first-round draft pick to Denver in order to get Anthony, Chauncey Billups(notes), and Shelden Williams(notes) as well as Anthony Carter(notes) or Renaldo Balkman(notes). As of last night, Anthony hadn't "indicated he would sign a contract extension" with the New Jersey Nets, which made a deal there far less likely to happen, the Post notes. Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski reports that this potential trade shows that Isiah Thomas still has the ear of Knicks owner James Dolan. "Thomas is driving everything through owner James Dolan - the trade for Carmelo Anthony, the departure of Donnie Walsh and perhaps even the eventual hiring of the New York Knicks' next president and general manager," according to multiple league sources. "Isiah is calling the shots for New York," one front-office executive with knowledge of the Anthony trade talks told Wojnarowski. "It's a disgrace. (Knicks president) Donnie (Walsh) should walk." The Knicks have released a statement saying that Thomas has nothing to do with the decision-making process, according to the Associated Press.
Argue merits of any deal, you certainly can. How Denver keeps changing demands over 5+ months? Gimme a break. DM the GM spent days negotiating with Knicks not months. It wasn't always a moving target.
Just give Mozgov and get it over with. Billups can go they can then get Paul. Its a perfect sript. As if Paul wont to NY with Melo and Stat on board. And even by gutting their team now NY wont be that bad off. The Denver can give us NeNe. Billups/Douglas Fields/Walker Melo/Shawne Williams Stat/Balkman (not a PF but no choice) Turiaf/Shelden Williams Felton/Lawson Affalo/JR/Bud Galo/Chandler/Jeffries Martin/Harrington/Hill Mozgov/Birdman/ NY have a sick starting lineup but crap reserves. Denver is laoded with a deep a$$ team. Whats the hold up - JUST DO IT!!!
This team would be Sacramento bad easily, with limited to no hope of improving itself anytime soon (basically without a Cousins or a Tyreke). Plus George Karl would never stay on to coach such a team. Again, if I'm the Nuggets I don't do this deal.
The goal was to up the ante on a top 10 player supposedly determined to go to only 1 team. They had a great trade in place with NJ and the package from NY is better than their initial ones. I see a GM doing his job and exhausting all options.
Denver will suck for years after this trade.....Who's the franchise player if they do the Knicks deal?....I'd trade Carmelo to NJ...If he dont sign an extension, thats their problem
Well, I now see this as a game of chicken between the Nuggets and Carmelo. The Nets and the Knicks have made their offers, now it is a battle between Carmelo and the Nuggets, who will blink first? The Nuggets probably want to trade with the Nets, but Carmelo won't agree to sign the extension. Carmelo wants to be traded to the Knicks, but the Nuggets refuse to pull the trigger. As the deadline looms the tension builds. Who's going to blink first, Carmelo or the Nuggets?
For the billionth time, the Nets won't do the trade if Anthony won't sign the extension, which makes it Denver's problem since they prefer the Nets package. First, every well-haggled deal has a moving target. Second, Morey is very behind the scenes, so no one knows how long he had been talking to the Knicks about McGrady. Adding Martin at the last minute definitely changed the demands of some of the teams, wouldn't you say? Third, what you have had your GM do?
