Didn't read past this TOTAL BULLSHIT. You would be screaming like a little girl if you got a picture with a bench player. As long as someone wasn't planning to try to share inside info, which would be a shady thing to do to a friend, ANYONE that posts here would say if they got to be friends with Morey. It's awesome. You're a fool. Also, D-Who?
Sam is totally right on this one. DD, you're overvaluing again. Paying someone more than the market says they are worth is an awful trait as a GM. Don't try to sell us on "fair market offer." The market has determined his value, you just don't agree with it. Too bad all the GMs in the league seem to agree with Morey on this one.
How the hell could you give someone a fair market price without letting the market decide that price? You're not even consistent in your nonsense on this issue!
Some people see what they want to see, yah DD, D-MO might be great at boxing out, but what about rebounds? He let's his man (or other player) to go for put backs all the time, sheesh, the dude could (not sure if still has game with injuries and rustiness and etc), decent game at best, stop acting like his some sort of savior, Clutch game like today by Anderson, D-MO would wet over it, only in his dreams.
What if he retires right after signing that contract? You just don't know what is going on here - it's easy to criticize the management but only they have the facts and know the risks. If they guarantee that second year and bump his salary up he could become both untradable and an albatross.
That's what the MARKET was for Ryan Anderson, and last night he showed why, but that's immaterial.... ...because the MARKET, aka, what buyers are willing to pay, for Donates Motiejunas is, based on all available evidence, about $15 to $20 mm less robust than it was for Ryan Anderson.
Not going to lie, I almost spit my coke out when I read that he thinks that 20 million is the market for Dmo. Anderson is a much better player than Dmo.
Bless his heart... DD does love to hold up certain middling players as the next greatest thing since sliced bread... no matter how many times he is wrong.... Very Carroll Dawson of him... Vspan anyone? lol
eeee Also Budinger and Brooks as well as a couple of others whose name slips my mind. I respect him as a fellow die hard Rockets fan, but man do our views on the game and player talents differ.
If it were up to DD, we would have given Aaron Brooks a $10m/yr extension when the market never even gave him $4m/yr. He overvalues his sentimental favorites. He has no idea how the market works and would constantly outbid himself.
There are multiple ways to look at a market for a player, you use comps as one way, so, Ryan Anderson has a 20m market price, that is the high end of a PF and the market, our offer was 7m. So, what Morey is saying is that we think 7m is the market for DMo, when other players in a similar situation around the league are getting higher offers - now I am not saying Morey is making a mistake - but there is lots of wiggle room between 7m and 20m, and when you add in guaranteed years etc, you have a lot of room to negotiate. I find it frankly hilarious that some people say it is on DMo that he has to accept what the Rockets are offering, that is 100% bullshit, DMo and his team have an idea of what he is worth, and what is going on here is Morey is saying "Prove it"....this is his philosophy and works well in keeping RFA prices down in some instances - Landry, but bites you in the ass in others - Parsons. My point, is that both sides could have given a little, and come to an agreement - BOTH sides were intractable. If the Rockets TRULY wanted DMo for the long term, they would have upped their offer and come to an agreement. It seems from reading the tea leaves that the Org wants him at a cheap price, and they want to be able to flip him in a trade - it seems from DMo's side, he wants more $$$ and doesn't want to be flippable. So, instead of negotiating, we get an impasse - and it is not a one sided one - both sides are stuck in the mud, because it looks to me like neither is completely happy in the relationship. I, obviously think DMo adds a dimension this team needs, and does not have a stretch 5, giving us the ability to put FOUR 3pt shooters on the floor and protect the paint.....that is a major team advantage - something not many in the league have....so I value him, even with the small risk of him re-injuring himself - I mean lets be honest, he has been cleared by the Rockets doctors and now the NJ doctors - that is pretty much old news..... So, for me, I think Morey should have budged EARLY on and worked out a deal that let him have the flexibility he wants and let DMo make more guaranteed money - even if that meant he had to FRONT load year 1. The reason this has gone on so long is that the Rockets policy of RFA is a very tough one - and most teams offer extensions before it gets to this point. DD Oh, and the "I like White players" is a lazy idiotic view of what I like, which is skilled players, who move off the ball and play a team oriented style - it is style I favor not skin color - it is ignorant to read on here and frankly insulting.
Exactly. I think the absolutely worst trait in a GM would be the tendency to overpay for mid-level talent. As a RFA, DMo is worth exactly what another team is willing to offer, not a penny more. And I love the guy -- I just don't want his next contract to screw up our future player moves.
I don't think passing up on Parson's can be used as a good example of not matching players anymore. Morey might have been lucky but he dodged a bullet. Then again he may have known more medical/physical information than people like to pretend to know...
Funny how when San Antonio's restricted free agents are extended, or OKCs or other teams they manage to find that price without someone else doing it for them....weird huh? DD
Um... they DID up their offer, from their initial $4.4M/1-year qualifying offer to something like $7M+/per year for 3 years.
