neo-nazis taking roots in germany, interesting development.

In an interesting form of irony I have read internal reports of European Neo-Nazi and militant Islamic groups working together in many of the European countries. Their goal?- to stamp out Jewish influence to put it nicely.

If you recall European Neo-Nazi groups held pro-Iran rallies during the World Cup.

 

The Jews get blamed so often, they really don't get a fair shake.

DD

 

It is odd that Jesse Jackson, La Raza, LULAC, and Al Sharpton were all called racists.

I think Jesse Jackson comes closest to that with his Heimy-town comment. But none of the others mention are racist at all.

 

Glad you've been keeping count.

No one needs to know what religious background or race I am...it concerns no one.

 

But weren't you the one to bring it up in another thread?

 

I don't think LULAC or the NAACP are 'racist' organizations, not at all. I do, however, think that they have some 'racist' individuals who are working/have worked for them; two entirely different things.

La Raza, on the other hand, does promote racism, as does the Blank Panthers and countless other 'race supremacy' groups.

 

I remeber the discussion.

One thing i think you should know is that these type of groups will have NO influence at all. There are a couple of pretty right winged orientated groups in the netherlands, but they are not taken seriously. But they can get some seats in parlement, but they just cannot do anything with it. It is the way our government is formed. We do not have one president, we have a couple of parties making the government. They might be in the opposition, but they will not have a any influence. The same goes for this group. Also the normal politiciens will not go into a government with these type of groups. So basically they are not really taken seriously by the politicians, but the Really right winged people do have a party they can vote for. So what do right winged americans vote?

Also in the election every party can join, and if some radical right party is pretty popular it will be mentioned. They will not have any chance of getting in the government, but they can get some seats in parlement. But those are so few that they will not have any influence.

That being said, ofcourse there are racistic right winged people in Europe. But they also exist in the US (or an i mistaken?). Those people have the feeling there are some politicians who speak for them. Luckily those groups will not become part of a government.

Did I explain it clear? If you have more questions.

 

David Duke & Jesse Jackson come to mind as examples of racists in the USA.

DD

 

Exactly, in another thread - a big mistake. Now as I have said, I am not anything, so why are you bringing it up?

 

Are you talking about the new Black Panthers or the original? The original was definitely not a race supremacy group.

Please explain what positions of La Raza do you think promote a racial supremacy?

 

you are right of course. however, i believe the difference is that in america, the well educated tend to be less racist whereas in europe it doesn't seem to matter. i think the US has been dealing with the "other" for much longer and although we still have a long way to go, things have gotten better.

 

I do not completly agree with you. Also in Europe racism is much higher among the low or non educated. ofcourse there are some High educated racists, but the majority of racist are low educated. and the majority of high educated are not racists.

I'm not saying racism isn't a problem in Europe, but i think it is not a bigger problem then in the US. I have to say i haven't actually been in the US so i do not know how big of a problem in Racism is there. But i think racism is a problem all over the world.

Racism and right wing orientated people have increased a couple of years ago. That was just before and after 9-11. But i get the feeling it is decreasing again. The overal mindset of most europeans seems to be more social now then a couple of years ago. I think racism will increase and after that decrease over time. And i think we are now again in a decreasing flow.

 

Yes, this is very sad and makes me very angry. When I see reports like this, it makes me want to go there and beat some sense into these intolerant ******* idiots, seriously. These neo-nazi groups are much stronger in Eastern Germany than in old Western Germany, where I grew up and where I live. I have personally not run into any such people, but I know that these groups exist - I don't think more or less so than in other European countries or, e.g., the south of the USA. But I have definitely noticed, even from otherwise more educated people from East Germany, that a culture of prejudice toward foreigners, including the use of derogatory terms, seems to be more widely accepted and prevalent there than it was in West Germany. I believe that it has to do with the fact that they never had the type of education about Germany's history during their time under yet another totalitarian regime (the "DDR") which we had in Western Germany. Most of the racist people the quoted news article talks about people are uneducated cowards who would not dare to show aggression or their true colors if they were alone. I guess some would probably describe them as white trash with a racist component.

I find it highly embarrassing and sad that we have people like this in Germany. However, I believe they are a small minority, and I hope that we can tackle this problem and root it out by better education programs and by fighting unemployment better.

This is correct. These people are from the same mold. I regard racist skinheads as intolerant assholes just as I regard islamists who sympathize with terror and who start riots over some cartoons or something the pope said as intolerant assholes. And it is interesting how these two groups seem to like each other, even though according to each's "philosopy", the other group should not even qualify to be talked to (one not being "aryan" , the other being "non-believers" ).

 

Modern day movements mainly, but even historically we had a lot of examples of that...

"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."

 

That comment was made by one man in the organization, and could be almost an extreme pride. I won't defend those words, because I don't agree with them, or think they are helpful, but I think it demonstrates goals to work toward rather than a racial supriority.

 

lmao NewYorker = OWNED LOLOL

 

Mecklenburg-Vorpommern should really develop a tourist industry around the neo-Nazi presence. I'm sure they can get Klansmen from the US and other kind of racist tourists to travel there. Maybe even get a few Aryans-only brothel going.

I smell profit.

As for the election... not a big deal. There are places in the US where a Neo-Nazi can get 7% or more of the votes, too. It's just that in our electoral system 7% doesn't get you a seat. It's basically the nature of single-seat districts vs. proportional representation.