Neo Confederates in TX Now Try try to use ID ruse to keep women from voting

Don't kid yourselves; voter fraud is real.

Sadly, it's invariably the Republicans who are behind it:

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/no...wisconsin-counties-b99124190z1-228569231.html

 

Sense and sensibility are not welcome here.

 

Ignore the article and google the actual state requirement.

 

Good lord, I was talking about the article itself in which they mention things that simply aren't true with respect to divorced women potentially having problems getting IDs. It is not a big deal for a divorced woman who has changed her name to acquire a valid ID for voting. She does not need all the stuff the article says she does. if the divorced woman hasn't changed her name, then there is absolutely no issue. So, yes....with respect to the posted article, this is no big deal.

 

It's a WAR ON WOMEN!

 

It may not seem like a big deal but it is another barrier thrown up in regard to voting in regard to a problem that doesn't exist.

 

crickets when you go deeper. I'm an auditor and i know you have to go deeper

Someone insert Leo going deeper meme

 

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/23/2821651/texas-judge-voter/


Texas Judge Almost Blocked From Voting Because Of New Voter ID Law


A Texas district judge who has been voting for the past five decades was almost barred from the polls Tuesday, thanks to the state’s newly implemented, stricter voter ID law. The law kicked in on Tuesday as early voting in Texas’ November 5 election began.

As she told local channel Kiii News, 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name. This was the first time she has ever had a problem voting in 49 years. “What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote,” she said.

Watts worried that women who use maiden names or hyphenated names may be surprised at the polls. “I don’t think most women know that this is going to create a problem,” the judge said. “That their maiden name is on their driver’s license, which was mandated in 1964 when I got married, and this. And so why would I want to use a provisional ballot when I’ve been voting regular ballot for the last 49 years?”

Many married women do not update their IDs after taking their spouse’s surnames, as the process is arduous and costly. Women must present original documents verifying their name change, such as a marriage license, or pay $20 to obtain new copies. Under the new voter ID law, these women are potential voter fraud risks.

Watts is hardly the only woman who has encountered problems. ThinkProgress’ Scott Keyes interviewed 84-year-old Dorothy Card, who was denied a voter ID three times even though she has voted for more than 60 years and provided extensive proof of identity.

While Watts, as an experienced judge, is familiar with the intricacies of election law, the people most likely to be stopped at the polls will be less informed about their rights. Low-income voters, minorities, students and seniors disproportionately lack the required identification — a fact that prompted the Justice Department and several federal judges to block the law under now-defunct provisions in the Voting Rights Act. After public outcry, Texas officials said they would distribute a free voter ID to eligible recipients who applied for one. As of this week, however, just 41 people received free IDs, out of the 1.4 million Texas voters who lack the required documents.

 

The woman mentioned in the article above.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/09/26/2683971/dorothy-card-voter-id/


Elderly Texas Woman May Be Disenfranchised After Being Denied A Voter ID Three Times


When 84-year-old Dorothy Card was born, women had enjoyed the right to vote for less than a decade. She never took it for granted. “It just makes me known that I’m an American and I have a right to vote,” she said, recounting past elections where she’d voted. “Truman, I guess I voted for him,” Card noted.

Though she has voted for more than 60 years without incident, that streak may end in six weeks when Texas voters will consider a host of statewide ballot initiatives.

That’s because of a new voter suppression law passed by the Texas legislature in 2011 to require voters to present a particular photo ID at the polls. If a person doesn’t have a photo ID, as studies have found is true of approximately 10 percent of potential voters, he or she is not allowed to vote under the new law. Texas’ voter ID law took effect this year after the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act, negating federal efforts to block new discriminatory voting measures.

Card’s experience is emblematic of the challenge that many Texas residents have faced or will face when trying to exercise their right to vote. Because she hasn’t driven in nearly 15 years, Card doesn’t carry the most common form of photo ID: a driver’s license. Once the voter ID law took effect, she went down to her local Department of Public Safety, the Texas agency that administers voter IDs.

She brought her documents and thought they would issue her a voter ID without hassle. She was wrong.

What should have been a simple trip to the DPS turned into three (and counting) long, arduous trips, each ending without Card being issued a voter ID.

Card didn’t have a license or other photo ID already. She tried to get a copy of her marriage license from the county courthouse, but officials there were unable to locate it. Even a special letter from a county administrator attesting to this was deemed insufficient by the DPS.

Eventually Card’s daughter, a legal assistant, even got involved and tried, unsuccessfully, to satisfy the agency’s requests for more documentation. “They have said if we get another document, that they will issue it,” Card’s daughter told Houston ABC affiliate KTRK. “But I’ve been told this three times, so I’m a little leery.”

Facing disenfranchisement if she doesn’t get a voter ID soon, Card is understandably frustrated. “It’s a good thing I don’t meet the man who is over this because he would hear from me good and proper,” she said.

ThinkProgress has spoken with other Texas voters who have had difficulty obtaining a new voter ID. One such woman is Jessica Cohen, a longtime Texas voter who lost her license and personal documents in a 2011 robbery. Without such identification papers, she would have had to pay a hefty fee to officials in Missouri to obtain her birth certificate, but couldn’t afford to do so after losing her job. Instead, she was resigned to the fact that she would be disenfranchised because of the new voter ID law.

For Card’s part, she is still hopeful she’ll get a voter ID before the election. After her case received local media attention, a DPS official told KTRK that Card “will be issued a Texas personal ID card without running into anymore issues.”

The question remains, though: what will happen to people whose ordeal doesn’t make the news? Will DPS be as forthcoming in resolving problems for folks who can’t threaten negative publicity, whose only stake is their own vote?

 

Ohio Poll Worker Convicted On Multiple Counts Of Obama-Biased Voter Fraud

You might find yourself convicted of non-existent voter fraud.

 

So one vote out of 120 million plus cast in the 2008 Presidential election. Okay.

 

voter fraud is by its very nature is very difficult to identify.

if you have no safeguards in place you will obviously have more voter fraud than if you have safeguards.

You will also disqualify more people.

 

You don't typically put safeguards to prevent something that happens once out of 120 million times and has no impact whatsoever. Common sense says if you're concerned about something being a problem, you show with actual data how it's a problem that needs to be addressed. You don't change laws to address something that you don't know anything about.

Republicans are the party of less government regulation. They don't want universal background checks to infringe on 2nd amendment rights however they're fine with regulation of your 1st amendment rights. How does that make any sense? It's just politics as usual.

 

I missed where it has been documented this was 1 in 120 million. Do you have a link?

 

129,446,839

 

If there are no laws requiring voter id, how is someone supposed to prove that people voted fraudulently?

Is it a Mitt Romney "Self report" sort of thing?

 

Is voter fraud mentioned in there somewhere? If there is a particular section I'd be interested to read it, but didn't see anything in that rather lengthy entry on the entire 2008 election.

 

Wait - why is voter ID the only way to catch them? People recognizing that people aren't who they say they are is a way. Dead people voting would show it. People voting twice would show it. etc.

 

Excellent. We found one example. She seems to have used some combo of the following in her vote fraud scheme:

1. Voting as her aunt in person, as a poll worker (meaning she would be the person checking the IDs)
2. Fraud using multiple absentee ballots
3. Voting both absentee and in person

None of these are solved by voter ID laws. Absentee fraud voting is a real potential problem, so perhaps I should have said there's no evidence of the type of voter fraud that would have been prevented by voter ID laws. It's a solution in search of a problem.

 

Wow so somebody cast an absentee ballot and an in-person ballot in their own name.

This devious fraud must be nearly impossible to detect. Better require ids- which will do nothing here.