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Nene: Miami 2012

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Octavianus, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    I'm with you and a good chunk of the owners are too. Both revenue disparity and competitive balance will be addressed in the new CBA.
     
  2. Octavianus

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    Any proof of this? Still waiting for people to provide it.
    Everyone knew Bosh and Wade were signing up, but most people believed he was going to the Knicks, until the last moment.
     
  3. dakeem1

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    Yes to Nene, great fit. No to Rubio, bad fit.

    Nene is exactly what the Heat need to put them over against the Celts.
    As far as a PG is concerned. They need one who is a good spot up shooter and a very strong defender. I can't think of any to be honest. Most PG's are on or the other. Take our PG's for instance. Brooks = strong shooter weak defender. Lowry = strong defender weak shooter. Rondo is another one who is a great defender but crap shooter.

    The Payton reborn would be a nice player for the heat. (maybe with stronger shooting though).
     
  4. Octavianus

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    The NBA is loving the Heat, as its increasing rating's everywhere, they are selling out stadiums everywhere they go, there is no way the NBA will stop this.

    Celtics/Heat finals will be one of the highest ratings playoffs games in a long time, and so will a Heat/LA finals. What NBA fan wouldn't want to watch that.
     
  5. Octavianus

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    Billup's would be a great fit, but don't think he is going anywhere right now.
     
  6. RocketMania1991

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    I would completely disagree, Lebron playing with the Cavaliers was fun to watch.

    Watching Lebron/Wade/Bosh is not even close to being fun.

    But thats a whole different matter in itself.
     
  7. Octavianus

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    How is it not fun to watch? Ratings and ticket sales all over the league say different.
     
  8. ArtisGilmore

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    This is not exactly new, for years every good player was rumored to go to play for the Knicks according to shadowy "sources" (ahem Peter Vecsey) or the Lakers. Heck there were even Jordan to NY rumors.

    I must say though it is obnoxious when bandwagon fans of said teams (Knicks (formerly), Lakers, Heat) come on message boards and act like it is their right to have every player come play for them on pay cuts and that they are God's gift to the NBA, when in reality fans of every other team in the league hate them.
     
  9. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I would argue that in a league where two teams have won half of the total championships, there's really never been that much parity.

    I think it's kind of funny that you compare it to baseball as if baseball was a sport where underdogs don't have a chance. There's been only one team that's won multiple World Series in the last ten years. I can't think of an NBA equivalent to Arizona Diamondbacks or the Florida Marlins championship teams.
     
  10. JunkyardDwg

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    What about ratings and attendance for games in which the Heat are not playing?
     
  11. apollo33

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    Exactly, that's the main problem with the super friends thing, you will be left with so many bottom feeder teams for a long time, i hate the way NBA is going where the best players just stack up a few teams because of more spot light in the media, it's ridiculous
     
  12. dakeem1

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    Big ratings doesn't necessarily make the actual game more fun to watch. It jsut means more people are getting pulled by the big names.

    When you actually watch the games though, there is less team play, more ISO's etc. Maybe with LBJ, not so much because he is a strong playmaker. But I'm just saying in general with the Superfriends formula.

    The Kings used to be the most entertaining team in the early 2000's because of their awesome team play. Compare that to the boring ISO's of Steve Francis with the Rockets.

    With the superfirends formula, you get 3 stars who are great ISO players (or post player) who won't pass to each other. Like is said before, LBJ is the exception. But overall, it's not good for the league because Fans of the weaker teams will lose interest (Houston Rockets included).

    If this continues to happen, then LBJ's idea of making the league smaller would actually be a good idea (i hate to say it). Because the weaker teams will find it hard to survive with all the superstars going to the same team. In that case, weaker teams who are near each other may need to merge. eg. Utah/Portland, Memphis/NO and go back to the days of 4 divisions.
     
  13. dback816

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    Players get criticized when they demand bigger contract

    Players STILL get criticized when they take less money to try to win....

    It's embarrassing seeing people complain about both.
     
  14. Octavianus

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    From Wade.

    “We're not the Boston Celtics,” Wade said Thursday in comparing the Heat's star power to the chemistry and experience shared among Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. “We're not these kind of teams that need to play together. We have guys that have the individual talent, and sometimes the individual talent, one-on-one ability, is going to take over. Boston has guys that have great individual talent, but they feed off each other. We're a new team. We're still figuring that out.”

    From Eric Spo.

    “Toward the end of the game and the end of the fourth quarter, we were making great, self-willed plays,” Spoelstra said. “That's our competitive nature that not a lot of teams have. I want to make sure we channel that, we keep that, because we can do miraculous things offensively with our talent and skill level.”
     
  15. meh

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    San Antonio, Detroit, Miami(pre-superfriends days) don't count?

    The point isn't how championships are rotated. Just because you have a new champion each year doesn't make it more fair. For example, as Rockets fans, we can at least hope that you can land the next Shaq or Lebron and have a chance. But what if the threshold is higher? What if landing such player is no longer good enough? That we need to tank twice, pray hard to land #1s each year, in order to compete? Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Nene/Rubio is four top 5 picks and a top 10 pick. That's 5 years worth of super-tanking AND getting lucky.

    What matters is the potential payoff when your team's losing. If you believe there's a huge pay day at the end, even if it's unlikely, you'll believe.

    But if you feel that no matter how hard your team tries, it will still fail at the hands of a superteam, then there's no point in following the league.
     
  16. Ramathorn006

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    These "super teams" are going to kill the NBA. There are not enough stars to go around each team anyways and if a team has 3 superstars on 1 team its going to kill the small market teams unless there are more players like Kevin Durant that are humble and loyal with the teams that draft them and actually care about the city they play in.
     
  17. Icehouse

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    The NBA hasn't had parity since I have been watching basketball. The only difference now is that players are deciding to hook up themselves, instead of teams bringing everyone together. I don't see the big difference.
     
  18. Ramathorn006

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    Nobody complains that NBA players get ridiculous contracts like MLB players. There is a max amount of money a player can earn in the NBA and players who get the max amount usually deserve it.

    I think most people agree on what Barkley, Malone, Payton, ect did...Towards the end of your career join a team and try to win a championship but play for for your legacy to lead your own team/city to victory.

    Dream did it, Jordan did it, Robinson did it...Lebon and Boshs legacy will be tainted it he ever wins a championship with Miami.
     
  19. echu888

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    hey, why don't we just rename the Miami Heat to the Harlem Globetrotters. Then we can shut down about 20 teams in the league and the leave the few remaining ones as obscure talent that the Globetrotters can beat up on for fun and entertainment. That would be neat.

    Oh, and Nene, and Wubio, you guys should go join the Globetrotters. That would be just awesome, and great for the game of basketball.
     
  20. Icehouse

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    Yeah, and they all failed!! New school players saw them stay around on teams that couldn't properly build around them, so they decided to take matters into their own hands and maximize their free agency. Sounds smart to me.

    Their legacy won't be tainted. The majority of teams that won titles had a lot of talent and half of them had more than what's on Miami's roster.
     

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