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Need advice for buying a handgun

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Davidoff, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. chow_yun_fat

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    How much for a HK P2000?
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    I just looked real quickly but it would be within a couple dollars of $670. It comes in a whole bunch of calibers and configurations, but they are all the same price.

    There is also a sub-compact version that would end up at right around $700.
     
  3. Xenochimera

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    how much would a hk usp .45 be?
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    3 Versions, all NIB with two magazines -

    $705 - USP

    $730 - USP Compact

    $920 - USP Tactical

    They all run between $40-$60 less each if you get them in .40S&W or 9mm. Again that is a quick estimate within a dollar or two.
     
  5. TMac#1

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    HK USP is a fine pistol, as is the SIG p220 if you don't want a safety. Revolvers suck
     
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    Get a gravity gun and shoot the burglars with early 90s Crown Victorias.
     
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    if j00 l1ke gettin pwn3d by n00bs....... lOLOLLOLOl1111!!!$!#%!@@@#!$^@%@^#^
     
  8. Jugdish

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    J00? The H0LOLcaust AFIAK n3v3r happ3n3d! OMFG IIRC
     
  9. chow_yun_fat

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    Thats not a bad price. Sorry I forgot to mention what caliber. Is $670 for the .45 or 9mm?
     
  10. Ottomaton

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    Correction:

    As far as I can tell it only comes 9mm, .357 SiG, and .40S&W. That is the price for any of those three calibers.
     
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  11. chow_yun_fat

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    Oops. As you've noticed I haven't done much research on the P2000. Thanks for the clarification. How much is a 9mm glock 19?

    Obviously the HK is better than the Glock, but is it a few hundred dollars better?
     
  12. Mack

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    What about a Mossberg 590? Thanks! :)
     
  13. Ottomaton

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    Glocks are one area that my prices are very average in. Generaly, depending on the configuration, you would run around $470. That is about what the chain stores do. It is a very low margin item, probably because they are so popular. The chain stores probably get a reasonable discount by buying in large volumes.

    For me, total profit on a Glock is about $5-10, which if I can add is about a 2% margin which isn't much no matter how you slice it. That doesn't leave much wiggle room for me. Most of the storefront gun retailers operate in the range of 10%-15% on guns that they sell, so I'm thinking even if they take a bit of a cut on the margin for a Glock, it isn't anywhere near 2%.

    But I think you probably get a better value on the money you pay for a Glock because there are so many sold that there is active price competition.

    I honestly don't know the answer. I would not keep a loaded Glock in my house because of safety issues when a round is in the chamber. But the Glock may in fact be a much better value. As stated above there isn't much margin for me (or anybody else, I think) in a Glock so that might be money you make up on your end because of competition. Lots of people think Glocks are great guns and to be honest outside of the safety issue I can't think you would really notice the difference. I hope that made some sort of sense...

    Looking around there seems to be some confusion as to what models constitute a 590. People online are listing the Ghost ring sight model and the Mariner model as 590's but my information shows that they are not.

    So I'm only going to give the price on the 590's as I understand them, which are the 590 Special Purpose 9 shot that has a heat shield above the slide.

    Two versions - one with blued metal and one that is Parkerized

    Blued - $305
    Parkerized - $345
     
  14. Xenochimera

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    is your store in houston or something man?
     
  15. XxShadyPinkxX

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    I've been thinking about getting a handgun as well. Haven't really done research as I am just contemplating it. If I would get one, I'd like something small, nothing too powerful, just effective and also nothing expensive. Any suggestions?
     
  16. chow_yun_fat

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    AR15 or was it AR16? Fun for the family!!
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    I actually don't have a store at the moment. I am working out of my home and selling at shows and on gunbroker. There will be a store eventually, but when that happens I think the prices will have to go up a bit to pay for the monthly overhead.

    If you are serious you might want to go to a range to try out shooting various calibers. People will tell you that you need this gun or that gun if you really want to stop someone, but you need to hit them first and people often have problems with different calibers.

    Many of the automatics like the Glocks and H&K's that we are talking about here aren't for someone that wants something 'low maintance'. I really, really highly recomend a revolver like the Taurus revolvers mentioned earlier. They are inexpensive, reliable, and easy to figure out and clean.

    If it is exclusively for home defense get one with a longer barrel with a bright shiny finish stainless finish - when you pull it out you want the home invader to see a big gun so they know to run.

    The primary disadvantage of a revolver is that it takes a heck of a long time to reload relative to a Glock and it has a small magazine - usually 6 shots to a Glock's 15. But if you are defending your home and aren't a sharpshooter, you are going to be in serious trouble if you get involved in a protracted gun fight.

    The other good option for home defense is a shotgun. With either a revolver or a shotgun you should be able to pick one up new that won't be fancy but will do exactly what you need in the $300-$350 range, perhaps less.
     
  18. XxShadyPinkxX

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    Now I know next to nothing about guns, but IIRC an AR 15 is a rifle right? :confused: That's scary. lol
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    If it's scary, why do you "lol"? :confused:
     
  20. XxShadyPinkxX

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    I was thinking more along the lines of something I could carry on me. :p Legally, of course. I really want to go to a range, but just the idea of it kinda makes me nervous. heh. Don't think my boyfriend likes the notion very much either. That'd definitely be my first step though, and once I get over that I'd probably be ready. Your feedback is very helpful though, and greatly appreciated.





    Oh and Swoly, I thought it was funny because I asked for a small handgun and he suggested a rifle. Just imagine a 5ft 18 y.o. girl carrying a rifle. :D
     
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