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[NCAC] PRIVATE CENSORSHIP – FIGHTING SUPPRESSION OF SPEECH BY NON-GOVERNMENTAL ACTORS

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  1. DaDakota

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    All private companies have the right to moderate their platform, censorship only applies to the government, not private enterprises.

    DD
     
  2. Os Trigonum

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    read the first post of this thread
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2023/07/cmt-censored-this-video-and-thats-clear.html

    42 minutes ago
    "CMT censored this video, and that's a clear indication that it's great, so I looked it up, and it sure is!"
    by noreply@blogger.com (Ann Althouse)
    July 19, 2023

    "Interesting how countless rap songs encourage murder sprees, drug dealing, pimping, and countless other crimes, and they're celebrated by the media, but a video by a country singer about self defense and neighbors looking out for each other is banned."

    That's the top-rated comment on the Jason Aldean video "Try That in a Small Town" (YouTube).

    I looked that up and watched it after noticing the NYT article "Jason Aldean Video for ‘Try That in a Small Town’ Pulled Amid Backlash/The country singer, who released the song in May, said the tune is an ode to the 'feeling of a community' he had growing up. Critics say it is offensive."

    The video, released in May, was shot in front of the Maury County Courthouse in Columbia, Tenn., a site known for the 1927 mob lynching of Henry Choate, an 18-year-old Black man....


    State Representative Justin Jones of Tennessee, a Democrat, condemned the song on Twitter, describing it as a “heinous song calling for racist violence” that promoted “a shameful vision of gun extremism and vigilantism.”...
    The NYT quotes from Aldean's response on Twitter. He denies that the song has anything to do with lynching and observes that the lyrics never mention race:

    There is not a single lyric in the song that references race or points to it- and there isn’t a single video clip that isn’t real news footage -and while I can try and respect others to have their own interpretation of a song with music- this one goes too far. As so many pointed out, I was present at Route 91-where so many lost their lives- and our community recently suffered another heartbreaking tragedy. NO ONE, including me, wants to continue to see senseless headlines or families ripped apart.

    Try That In A Small Town, for me, refers to the feeling of a community that I had growing up, where we took care of our neighbors, regardless of differences of background or belief. Because they were our neighbors, and that was above any differences. My political views have never been something I’ve hidden from, and I know that a lot of us in this Country don’t agree on how we get back to a sense of normalcy where we go at least a day without a headline that keeps us up at night. But the desire for it to- that’s what this song is about.
    And I'm seeing Shannon Watts responding (at Twitter):

    Translation: Jason Aldean simply wants to return to a time in America when “good old boys” could shoot or beat the **** out of people who they didn’t think belonged in their town. Also, this song is two months old and now far past the legal song judgment period. Good day.
    And that provokes Roseanne Barr:

    Him Talking about small town values is not the same thing that your mind controlled dipshit brain filters it as. All you are doing is showing that you’re batshit crazy and that does no good for anyone. If you don’t like the song don’t listen to it. certainly don’t project your insanity on to it. My god you people are INSANE. Maybe check yourself into a facility or something. Liberals in my day protected art and made fun of those that said it had satanic messaging when you play it backwards or **** like that. That’s what you guys are now, the epitome of what you used to hate. Go get help or maybe dicked down and shut the **** up. thanks.
    I added the boldface.

    ADDED: I'm reading "Jason Aldean Already Had the Most Contemptible Country Song of the Decade. The Video Is Worse" by Chris Willman (Variety):

    Aldean’s “Try That in a Small Town” is close to being the most cynical song ever written about the implicit moral superiority of having a limited number of neighbors, which is saying something, given how many attempts to write the Great American Small Town Anthem are generated in a single year. At least most of the others at least put up the appearance of celebrating local pride, not prejudice. But for Aldean, it’s about how tiny burgs are under the imminent threat of attack from lawless urban marauders who will have to be kept at bay by any means necessary — meaning, pretty explicitly, vigilantism.
    AND: Shannon Watts aptly and gracefully responds: "Please add to my obituary: 'She was honored to be called a dipshit by Roseanne Barr.'"
    kinda like Roseanne Barr's response actually

     
  4. Os Trigonum

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    HOLY SHITE TWITTER IS BIASED NOW!

    hat tip @durvasa

    but no worries, posters here in this thread assure me that private companies should be free to set their own standards and also that if there is censorship then lefties are free to start their own social media platform . . . like bluesky
     
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    Hey I am using your principals here, not mine. I am only inquiring why not the consistency? You were one who made a big fuss about bias of social platforms by the left. But crickets on the right. It's a fair thing to call out.

    Also, it should be noted, that weighting content to influence an election would likely violate US election law, not that anyone cares about that anymore.
     
  8. Os Trigonum

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    consistency? from where I stand the issue here now isn't the censorship, it's the lefty/progressive/Democrat hypocrisy. But I'm glad this incident has brought the issue into sharper focus for you. ;)

    minor nit . . . principles, not principals. My dad was a high school principal, from a very early age he said the way to remember that is that the principal is your "pal."

    the more you know.gif
     
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    Yeah I don't really proof my posts here so excuse the typos.

    But yeah, everyone is a hypocrite. Republicans no less than Dems. The GOP were screaming bloody murder over anything that even smelt like censorship, yet they are totally fine with it when it suit their purpose. Just look at Trump threatening to sue anyone who says anything bad about him. Or even sue if a poll had him behind! Yet we are talking about Harris - who lost and is irrelevant now - complaining about Twitter bias.

    It's just remarkable to me that's what we are talking about. Harris. And not the guy who is making threats and about to be President. What that hints at to me old friend, is that maybe you aren't too worried about censorship so long as it aligns with your politics.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    I'm not worried about the new Twitter censorship anymore since Musk bought the company to fix the old Twitter censorship. Twitter's censorship NOW is the just reward being divvied out to lefty progressive-types for the previous Twitter censorship they denied was happening for years and years and years.

    so you're right. I don't care about Twitter censorship NOW as much as I did several years ago. Now I find Twitter censorship amusing. Live by the censorship . . . die by the censorship.
     
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    this guy gets it Picard.jpg


    :cool:
     
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    Well, at least you are honest about it haha.
     
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    related

    LA Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong tells editorial board to ‘take a break from writing about Trump’: report

    https://nypost.com/2024/12/17/media...take-a-break-from-writing-about-trump-report/

    excerpt:

    Staffers at the Los Angeles Times say the newspaper’s billionaire owner is demanding that the editorial board “take a break from writing about” President-elect Donald Trump, according to a report.

    Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, the physician and entrepreneur who bought the Times in 2018, has rankled staffers at the paper with his “meddling” in editorial matters, which has become “more pervasive than previously realized,” media reporter Oliver Darcy writes in his Status newsletter.

    The South Africa-born Soon-Shiong is reported to have taken “a number of previously unreported steps” designed to rein in Trump-related commentary.
    more at the link
     
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    The Economics of Media Bias
    In a polarized country and crowded market, partisan coverage allows outlets to differentiate themselves.

    With several papers declining to make presidential endorsements this year, one hopes there’s a future for unifying, objective sources of news. My hunch is that it will get worse before it gets better. I am skeptical that there is enough demand for objectivity and believe there are powerful economic forces pushing media outlets to give audiences the red meat they desire. If we truly want less-biased media, we need to stop consuming the unhealthy options on offer. The market will give us what we want.
     
  15. Os Trigonum

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    @astros123 this is the thread where you want to lodge your current complaint
     
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    Considering this . .. . then the reality is we don't have a Free Press
    We have a Free Propaganda machine

    You can only get the information you can afford
    or what the rich deem you worthy of having

    The reality is Totalitarian Tyrants will suppress information
    Democratic Tyrants will simply oversaturate the information with disinformation and misinformation
    the results are about the same .. .a truly uninformed public
    which is a feature not a bug

    Bezos censors a cartoon because it was critical of him in the Post
    Elon removing check marks and delete or moving content critical of him

    Rocket River
     
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    F that little punk Zuckerberg. Too little too late for his BS about face. He was knee deep with this current regime in censoring people for the past 4 years. If God forbid had Kameltoe win this election, little Z will go hog wild in gagging us. Trump is the real reason he has to tone his crap down. He lied in front of Congress many times. The only way to get rid of him is for Elon to buy his FB.
     
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