[NCAA Football] Texas vs. Sherman's Worst Nightmare

I once saw a video of a monkey washing a cat. THAT'S CRAZY!

 

While I generally agree in theory (I think you do you have to look at other 11 games as well, to some extent), this argument is going to come back to bite UT if OU loses tomorrow. Then Tech wins the B12 South and suppose they beat Mizzou in the B12 Title Game. They'll be ranked in the top 4 or so at that point again. Now UT fans will be arguing that Tech shouldn't go to the national title game despite the same record and a head-to-head win over Texas because of style issues - getting blown out by OU and playing a crappy non-conf schedule (which, I believe, will put Texas ahead, whether it should or not). If nothing else, it would be amusing to see everyone on both sides flip to the opposite site of the argument.

 

I can't wait until Sunday when this is all over.

IMHO
1. OU
2. UT

signed Texas Tech fan.

 

I'm neutral. If OU loses then I support Tech going to the Big XII title game by virtue of their win over UT. And if they win that game I support them playing for the national championship too.

 

The computers do not.

 

It's been thrown around in past years, but I like the suggestion that there should be a rule that if you don't win your conference then you can't play for the championship. Still, that might put Utah in the championship game instead of Tech (if OU lost). It would also kill a potential OU-UT rematch.

 

As a UT fan my personal feelings are that I can understand OU fans wanting OU to be ahead of UT in the case of a 3-way tie. I think they are 100% incorrect and that the head-to-head in a neutral field trumps everything, but I still understand them hoping that it works for OU.

Similarly, if OU were to lose and TT to win tomorrow, I would be hoping that UT would make the NCG, etc. I wouldn't heavily argue it since they won head-to-head but you're darn sure I wouldn't be upset if UT were to benefit. There is a difference between hoping something breaks your way and demanding/expecting that it do so.

 

Pretty sure that won't ever happen, for two reasons.

First, the point of a national championship game is to put the best two teams in the country against each other. Who's to say the best two teams can't be from the same conference?

Second, you need to have all conferences decide their champions the same, for that to be fair. Let's say, hypothetically, that Missouri beats Oklahoma or Texas Tech next week and wins the Big 12. Well, Texas would have a better record than Mizzou (1 conference loss compared to 2) along with a head-to-head win. But Mizzou wins the Big 12, under Big 12 rules. That's fine, except if Texas played by Big 10 or Pac 10 rules (overall record, no CCG), they'd be the conference champions! In a system like the BCS that compares teams across conferences, it wouldn't be fair to use a measuring stick (winning your conference) where the standards vary from league to league.

 

By the way, in case anyone can't tell, I'm really cheering hard for OSU tomorrow. Obviously, regardless of what ESPN/ABC says, I think the best route for Texas to the MNC involves avoiding the three-way tie. (And I say that as a person who two weeks ago couldn't fathom voters overlooking the head-to-head.)

Also, for selfish reasons, I'd love for Missouri to play Tech or OU, Tech especially because I feel reasonably confident that we would win. But it would suck to have things break the right way and then have to cheer against Texas the next week... lol.

 

This isn't necessarily true. I thought the same, but Tech managed to stay at #4 in the computers. If they were to beat Missouri while Alabama and OU lost, they would be #2 the computers behind Texas (or maybe #3 behind Florida, but that's unclear at this point). If they were #2 in the computers and #2 in the polls, that would trump Texas being #1 in the computers and #3 in the polls.

I still think it's less than 50-50 because of the style points problem from Tech losing to OU, but it's not as impossible as I had assumed. The polls will actually be their problem more than the computers.

 

Thats not being competitive if you just got your ass sacked and your chasing down Sergio Kindle to talk trash.. instead he was firing up THE University of Texas Longhorns. The score was 28-3 when he did that... Im sure that's being competitive.

 

It reminded me a little of this

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Haha...Yeah it did...Poor Aggy

 

Honest answer- Top 4 team in the BCS is guaranteed an at large spot. Or, if two "at large" candidates are top 4, then the top team of those is guaranteed a spot. So, that means if Texas is ranked above Tech in the BCS, there is no "choosing." It dictates that Texas would go, no matter who the BCS would want to choose.

If OU or Tech go to the Big 12 title game, Texas is basically guaranteed a spot in the BCS. Sorta sucks for us, but nice to no there is no way Texas doesn't either a) go to KC, or b) go to at least Fiesta Bowl.

 

I fully agree with this - although I haven't seen any OU people demanding that they should be ahead of Texas, just that they are and it's great for them. That's the same I'd feel if Texas jumped ahead of Tech for NCG berth if Tech were to win the B12. To me, the whole system is ridiculous and arbitrary when you're talking about things like the 5th tiebreaker in a 3-way tie. At that point, whoever gets in caught a break and whoever doesn't didn't catch a break.

 

Tech doesn't deserve it....losing so badly should eliminate them from contention......

DD

 

But it won't. Fact is that if OU loses, TT will have a better record and a head to head win over UT. They'd have rightful claim to the South title and if they beat Mizzou then they'd have legitimate right to play for the championship.

 

The problem is that if the choice comes down to UT or Tech, the head to head argument that UT is making in regards to OU becomes the proverbial double edged sword.

For the love of God...we need a playoff badly. Regardless of how this thing plays out, there are some very good teams that are going to get screwed.

 

I agree with this.

 

True, but that wasn't my point. My point is that the Fiesta Bowl is going to go with the team that's going to fill the seats if given the choice.