[NCAA Football] Texas vs. Sherman's Worst Nightmare

no, but it is impressive enough.
the 10-point win comes early in the season with little reason to believe either team is fatigued and it's at a neutral site. no flukes, just straight-up "what do you have?"

the 6-point win comes after a 4-game hell schedule that hasn't been seen in half a century, on the road, from not one, but two jaw-dropping plays at the end of the game (dropped int, miracle cross-field pass with :01)

looking at it this way: who had the nastiest loss?
Tech: completely pantsed on national TV at home. goodbye.
OU: lost on a neutral field by a TD and FG.
Texas: lost at a road game by one dropped INT OR one crazy pass at :01.

not so hard to see this one.

a win is a win, but still - some comparisons can be made.

 

Which team had the most impressive victory? Oh wait, that doesn't help your argument, so that's why you chose to look at the most impressive loss.

Also, hilarious how OU beating Tech badly is supposed to help Texas's argument. Too funny.

 

Several years ago, I was in Charlotte, NC visiting my Dad when he was doing a bank consulting job. I was looking at the newspaper to see what there was to do. There was a meeting listed for the Texas A&M Club of Charlotte.

That struck me as odd. Ever since then, when traveling, I have looked to see if there was an A&M club there. The two furthest from Texas I have seen is Anchorage, AK and the A&M Club of Western Washington (Seattle).

While the A&M name may not be "impressive" outside the state, in most places I have been to there are enough A&M grads employed in that locale to have an alumni club with regular meetings.

 

Which team lost in the head to head matchup? Oh wait, that doesn't help your argument, so that's why you chose to look at a win over one team who had a win over another team.

 

Honestly, Texas shouldn't even need Tech to get to the Conference Title game. If the voters would put a 1 loss Texas over a 1 loss OU based on the win in Dallas, Texas would be heading to KC regardless of what the Sooners did this weekend. This is factoring where Tech is in the polls as well.

Also, I will freely admit the game needs a playoff.

 

This is what I have been telling everyone who I talk to about the UT/OU situation. Each team can pick and choose statistics or facts that make their case stronger. UT has the most impressive loss, OU has the most impressive victory. OU scores more, but UT holds their opponent to less. OU (probably) will have a win on the road over OSU, but UT destroyed Mizzou. UT's QB has the highest completion percentage and rushes for more, but OU's throws more TD's... etc.

The only fact that no one can swing is that UT beat OU. 45-35.

I know OU fans will counter with the "Tech beat UT" argument, and rightfully so. If Tech were ranked up there with UT and OU then UT fans would not have a case. But the voters have spoken, and they do not believe that a Tech team, with the exact same record as UT or OU, is as good as UT and OU. If they did, Tech would be higher than 7th. UT is 2nd, OU is 3rd, and mathematically speaking, one of them will be in the top 2. The polls have made it a UT/OU debate, and the UT fans are just trying to voice why, logically, UT should be over OU.

Oh, and for what it's worth, the 45-35 campaign was one of the coolest things I have ever been a part of. As a student at UT it has been absolutely amazing to see the growth of this thing in 4 DAYS! This was started Sunday night, and by Thursday we have thousands and thousands of signs all over the stadium, national recognition, and a freaking plane flying in Stillwater.

All of you haters, you have to admit that this is pretty damn impressive, whether you respect it or not. And I can all but guarantee that if this was happening to your school, you would be doing the exact same thing. Hook 'em!

 

I predict Florida is going to lose this weekend and then put a beat down on Alabama.

UT-OU rematch for the NC.

 

That would be perfect.

 

One question:
UT's Destruction of Mizzou [where were they rank at the time]
vs
OU's Destruction of Tech [Ranked #2 at the time]

I would like to see Tech and Mizzou play
Who'd win that game?

Rocket River

 

If OSU beats OU, you will get to see that game....

DD

 

When TEch destroyed Mizzou, the Tigers were #11 because they had just lost to OSU the week before when they were #2 or somewhere else in the top 5.

I don't know who would win, but the fact that Tech would have to basically play a road game vs. Mizzou makes a lot of people think it would be very close, or that Mizzou would take it.

I don't know what is better for TExas- hope to get to KC, or hope that an other team does, loses, and Texas somehow gets into the top 2 of the BCS.

 

Sorry, when TEXAS destroyed Mizzou. Tech has not played Mizzou this year, and neither has OU.

 

This is EXACTLY how I see it. There are arguments all over the place. But when you break this down to 2 teams....as has been done if you're talking about who could be coming out of the Big XII to play for the national championship.....then the only argument that matters, provided they have identical records, is SCOREBOARD. That's why they play those games.

Is Tech getting jobbed? Maybe. But once past that discussion, you're just left talking OU and UT...and that's the reality of that situation right now. And they have the same records. But UT beat OU. The end.

(p.s. -- I hate when people pull the "well we beat team x...andyou lost to team x...so we must be better than you...even though you beat us." How you match up against team x may be entirely different. These are legit questions if the two teams in question never played. But here..in this case..the 2 teams in question DID play each other.)

 

fine. most impressive win:

Texas: beat OU on a neutral field.
OU: stomped Tech on the road after a bye week.
Tech: fluked out against texas.

so let's see, you're trying to tell me that OU's win over Tech should trump Texas' win over OU... when the BCS controversy is between OU and Texas...

OU: "We absolutely killed the team that beat you! LOL OMFG"
Texas: "We beat you."

 

Honest question...

Let's assume UT & Tech finish 11-1 and OU wins the Big 12, putting them in the BCS title game. Both UT & Tech finish in the top 5 in BCS standings. Only one team can be an at-large. Who do you think they're going to pick?

Will it be the team that has no presence outside of the panhandle?

Will it be the team with a national presence (who also happens to be #2 now in all-time college football victories)?

 

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that happened. Florida St. beats Fla tomorrow. Alabama barely beats a craptastic Auburn team. Fla then wins a close game against Alabama in the SEC title game. Are the voters going to put a 2 loss team in the BCS title game over a 12-1 OU AND an 11-1 UT team?

 

They'd probably figure out some way to get Penn State in there instead.

 

Penn State is too far down, and no, there's no way a two-loss team would get into title consideration. You'd have some votes split between OU/UT (whichever isn't in the B12 title game), USC and Penn State, but OU/UT would be well ahead in the computers and win comfortably.

I know in previous years there's been a bit of a backlash against teams that didn't win their conference playing for the title, but I'm guessing people would acknowledge the entirely arbitrary manner in which either UT or OU were given the opportunity to play for the B12 title.

If Florida goes down this weekend and then beats Alabama, it's UT and OU for the title, if they win out.

 

poor aggy.

Hey, if Florida beats Alabama in the SEC title game, Alabama should still play for the national title instead of Florida, right? By what you're telling me, head-to-head doesn't matter -- it's all about the common opponent. Florida lost to Ole Miss, while Alabama beat Ole Miss. So I'm assuming if Alabama wins this weekend, they can book their ticket to Miami, regardless of what happens in the SEC title game, right?

 

this is what i'm saying...the argument is just flat out nonsensical. if it's between two teams with identical records...and one team beat the other...how do you punish the team that actually won in the head to head matchup? or reward the team that lost that matchup? that's crazy. (i'm brian fellows)