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[NCAA Football] Nov. 30 Polls & BCS Rankings

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by King of 40 Acres, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. surrender

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    It would be criminal if Florida jumped Texas after an SEC CCG win. Texas' only loss was on the road against #8, while Florida's loss was at home to #25. Texas has wins over #2, #15 and #17, while Florida has only beaten #19 and then #1.
     
  2. halfbreed

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    Florida would have the "we won our conference" trump card.
     
  3. The Cat

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    Only because they weren't denied the opportunity to play for it by a flawed tiebreaker.
     
  4. halfbreed

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    Preaching to the choir, my friend.
     
  5. rocketfan83

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    I gotta give Longhorn fans credit you guys never give up :D
     
  6. halfbreed

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    Never give up hope. Honestly, though, if OU wins it's OU-SEC Champ. No doubt in my mind.
     
  7. flipmode

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    protip: don't get blown out at home on national TV. this bcs argument is between OU and UT, and in that event, it was settled on the field in october.
     
  8. yaoluv

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    T Boone Pickens should set up a rival Championship series and pay double what the BCS does.

    Heck the 17 mil payout per game that the bcs gives is pocket change to thousands of alumni at these schools that are getting screwed over
     
  9. Cannonball

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    They weren't at home. None of the UT, OU, TT losses came at home. UT and TT lost on the road. OU lost on a neutral field.
     
  10. rocketfan83

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    So you are punishing OU for wining by 40+ rather than 6 or whatever. Make sense?

    IF Tech would have been defeated by Baylor yesterday than its a simple h2h debate end of story. If we lose to Nebraska than again its a simple h2h.
    But they didnt you have a 3 way tie. I have no idea why the media/fans cant grasp this concept.

    The teams have been ranked
    1. OU
    2.UT
    3. Tech

    Sucks for UT. And it will suck for Tech if Mizzou pulls a shocker cuz after all 39-33.

    But its a 3 way tie thats the way it is.
     
  11. Dubious

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    my guess:

    OU beats Mizzou
    FL beats AL

    NC - FL/OU
    Fiesta - TX/Utah
    Sugar - AL/OSU (sorry Boise, NOLA needs tourists)
    Rose - USC/Penn St.
    Orange - BC/Cincy


    Does Mizzou automatically get the Cotton? ...Mizzou/Boise St

    TT/ Boise would make a typically great Holiday Bowl shootout.
     
  12. Refman

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    Tech has the same argument. They have the head to head against Texas. Texas has head to head against OU. Every team in the three way tie has valid arguments.
     
  13. halfbreed

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    Look. The voters obviously thought UT and OU were in a different class which is why Tech is the lowest ranked one-loss team. When teams are that close to each other, when deciding which is better, you usually decide who you think would win on a neutral field. UT did win that game.

    If Tech and UT were fighting for the spot and OU ranked 8th, Tech would have a much stronger claim to be ranked higher than we would and it's the very argument you'd be making.

    EDIT: If you decide to ignore head to head, Tech is out anyway as it would come down to OU & UT due to strength of schedule. Tech played TWO 1-AA teams.
     
  14. AstroRocket

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    For the record, I think it's incredibly dumb that who goes to the NC game may be decided this way. I really wish there was a friggin playoff so that none of this would really matter.

    Though a am a bit miffed that a lot of people are only now talking aboiut the flawed big 12 tiebreaker and the bcs system when we have known it to be messed up for quite a while. You guys remind me a lot of most OU fans in 2003 when I was arguing that we shouldn't go to the championship because of our blowout loss to k-state. I guess everyone only really cares when it's their team that's adversely affected.

    That's kinda sad. :( This mess isn't gonna change anytime soon.
     
  15. halfbreed

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    That's a completely different scenario. OU got blown out in the last game before the bowl selection.
     
  16. The Cat

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    Mizzou would get the Alamo Bowl. The Cotton would opt for Texas Tech or Oklahoma State, better teams with a superior record who would likely travel better because they didn't go to the game a season ago, like Missouri did.
     
  17. AstroRocket

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    Geez man, I'm not talking about scenarios or arguments. Just the dismissive nature of CF fans when their team is benefitting or not being adversely affected by this system as opposed to when they are. It more about the welfare of their team that it is about having an actual fair system.
     
  18. Major

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    The problem is that this doesn't matter. The tiebreaker is not "let the voters decide who's worst and eliminate them, then go to head-to-head with the remaining two". It's simply "let voters and computers decide who's best of all the tied teams". If the voters/computers eliminating Tech is fair, then them eliminating both Tech and Texas is fair. You can't say the system is unfair because they ranked Texas the way they did, but then say justify kicking Tech out because of that same unfair system that kicked Tech out.

    Either Tech is in it because of the 3-way head-to-head, or Tech isn't because head-to-head isn't 100% important and voters can decide it on how teams look, in which case they picked OU over Texas using that same standard.
     
  19. Happy Mac

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    i don't think you could find very many fans of any team who are happy with the current system whether it affects their team or not. if you're happy with a system that is going to leave three undefeated teams and a handful of 1-loss teams with no shot to win the championship, then you're dumb whether you're a sooner, longhorn, red raider, gator, or a you get my pointer.
     
  20. percicles

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    After some careful deliberation I've concluded that Texas should pull out of the Big 12 and go independent.
     

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