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[NCAA Football] Nov. 30 Polls & BCS Rankings

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by King of 40 Acres, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. Refman

    Refman Member

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    If they boycott the game, they should be immediately fired. To turn down that payday would be stupid.
     
  2. NIKEstrad

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    I think Refman just wants to make sure the Aggies get their fair share of the Big 12 money. Or he's really excited to see Muschamp as coach.

    :D

    (To be clear, I agree. We're not going to boycott. Poor Ohio State or Utah is going to leave the field broken in half.)
     
  3. dylan

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    Gee, ya think? Come on, I'm not saying Texas would be favored in every game they could play but is there a team in college football that wouldn't be "beatable" for Texas?
     
  4. percicles

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    I was so cheering for Rice. The entire season.

    I read it might actually be Utah in the Fiesta Bowl. Something about the Sugar bowl not wanting mormons in the Big Easy. So OU North goes to the Sugar Bowl. Regardless, a beatdown will fall on whoever Texas plays.

    In closing,

    F_ck you Colorado and Mizzou! F-ck the Big XII commisioners!

    But I reseverve my biggest F-ck you to Bob Stoops. May you spend eternity in the inner ring of the seventh circle of hell.
     
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  5. halfbreed

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    I wish we could get a piece of whoever loses the SEC championship game.
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

    Wouldn't be up to the Sugar Bowl. Fiesta Bowl gets to pick before them.

    Assuming USC and OU win next week, and assuming some craziness doesn't occur leaving Texas/OU 1/2, we know this much:

    MNC: OU v. Florida/Bama
    Rose Bowl: Penn St. v. USC
    Orange Bowl: Maryland/BC v. ??
    Fiesta Bowl: ?? v. ??
    Sugar Bowl: ?? v. ??

    That leaves 5 slots not clear.

    We also know that Utah (top ranked undefeated mid-major) and Cincinnati (Big East) will be in. Texas is in as an at large (top 4 BCS team). The loser of Florida/Bama is in, which leaves one more team to be selected -- likely Ohio State (sorry Tech).

    The rest of the selections this year will go as follows --
    1) Fiesta/Sugar -- bowl losing "contractually obligated" teams get 1st replacements. Depends who is ranked higher between OU and Florida/Bama.
    2) Fiesta/Sugar -- see above
    3) Fiesta
    4)Sugar
    5) Orange

    The assumption is that the Fiesta and Sugar both want to pick the teams with their conference tie in. That sends Texas to the Fiesta Bowl and the loser of Bama/Florida to the Sugar Bowl. Fiesta Bowl then gets the next pick. They can take Utah or Cincinnati, or choose the at large.

    If you're the Fiesta Bowl, you're going to choose the most compelling matchup, which in all likelihood is Ohio State.

    That Orange Bowl is going to be a barn burner -- Maryland/BC v. Cincinnati. Can't wait!

    Of course, if Florida-Bama becomes a blowout, vaulting one of those teams to a clear #1 BCS ranking, the Sugar Bowl may re-think taking the loser and take Texas. That could throw a twist in things.
     
  7. Desert Scar

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    I don't think an OU-Tex rematch is that far fetched. The humans are probably going to have to put UF way ahead of Texas in the polls to prevent UT from snagging the #2 spot behind OU (assuming OU and UF wins). The fact Bama being undefeated and is still behind OU and Texas in many polls bodes poor for them. I think if Florida wins they will be a weak #3 in computers, behind OU and Texas, and maybe Tech in some (Tech, with a much weaker schedule than OU and UT, is ahead of Bama in 3 polls and UF in 4--Florida beating Bama probably won't catch them in all polls).

    It will be interesting if Pollsters catch wind of how much ground UF would have to make up to jump Texas, because anything other than a strong favoring of UF as #1 in the human polls might get them #3 in the BCS

    Thus we could end up with another split NC, with Florida (AP) and OU/UT (BCS NC game) winner.

    A series of things broke bad for Texas the last two weeks that allowed OU to catch Texas in the majority of computers. Cincy squeeking by Pitt, the NU kick, Mizzou melt down and KU kick, and Baylor losing a 14 point 2nd half lead, etc. But Rices, wins, Arks last second play versus LSU and FAU win kept it from a total slide in the computers. In contrast to Major and Bigtex thinking I have to say did Texas gained ground in the human polls last weekend despite OU beating the better opponent, but the common opponents outcomes impacting the computer rankings (that faired on kickers and such) just barely did enough to do them in.

    So yeah it sucks for where UT is setting. The life line is with Mizzou and UF now. Mizzou win or close UF win, I like UT's chances.

    I do hope McCoy wins the Heisman as deserved (he won games without the always clean pocket and typical running support Bradford)--but that one could be an injustice as well. This could be another Jason White type system Heisman winner (who will get crushed if he faces good pressure a la LSU, USC, etc.).
     
  8. percicles

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    NIke, your forgeting about possible backroom deals between the Sugar and Fiesta.
     
  9. Desert Scar

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    I hope people keep go along thinking UF beating Bama assures them of the BCS game. (see last post)
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Thanks Butterfingers Gideon......

    GO MIZZOU !!

    DD
     
  11. The Cat

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    I'll be at the game, so if you hear a story about a fan from the stands becoming enraged and tackling Bradford, you'll know who it probably was. ;)
     
  12. NIKEstrad

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    What does the Fiesta Bowl have to gain by this? A pick to be named later?

    Interesting. Texas currently holds a .037 lead on Florida. A week ago, OU gained .044 on us by stomping the crap out of Tech at home. Bama is ranked higher than Tech was, and the game would not be a home game, so both of those factors go against us. But, Florida also has less room to rise. We would need for those voters who elevated us against OU to keep us that way.

    So I guess a close Florida-Bama game and an unconvincing OU win might be enough. If Texas and OU make the championship game, Tech is back in play for a BCS game. Maybe Leach will continue to be a dirty pirate and actually help us out in the final polls?
     
  13. The Cat

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    No they're not. Only two teams from a conference can qualify for the BCS.
     
  14. Cannonball

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    Conference Champions from 8 conferences get automatic bids. The other 8 at large slots are chosen by a committee consisting of athletic directors. They also seed the top 4 teams who get their own corner of the bracket. First round match ups are chosen to minimize travel. There is no limit to the number of teams a conference may have in the playoffs, but teams from the same conference can't meet in the first round. Then they just play out the bracket.

    The FCS playoffs started on Saturday and will end on 12/19. If the FBS waited until 12/13 to start a playoff due to conference championship games, they'd end on 1/3/09. The BCS title game is on 1/8.
     
  15. Major

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    I don't think this is the case. At best, you can pretty much assume OU will be a consensus #1 in the computers, and UT a consensus #2 in that scenario. Florida would be a mixed #3 - let's say #3.5.

    Florida and OU will be splitting first place votes, with UT maybe getting some 2nd place votes. But even if Florida was a consensus #2 - that is, all 2nd place votes and no first place votes - they'd have to be a consensus #4 in the computers just to fall into a tie w/ Texas, if Texas had all the 3rd place votes in the polls. For Texas to get in, Florida probably needs to be worse than a consensus 4th in the computers. That means Tech and Utah need to both stay ahead of them, which us unlikely with a win over #3 (in the comps) Alabama. We saw how much OU moved with a win over #12 OSU.

    It could work potentially if OU obliterates Mizzou and Florida squeaks by Alabama and voters all put OU at #1, and split UF/UT for #2 and #3, but that's really unlikely. The SEC and B12 winners are almost definitely a clear 1 and 2 (in whichever order).
     
  16. Refman

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    I really believe that the non-BCS conferences need to get into the playoff. If the system is going to have them without a bid, then there needs to be a new division for these conferences to be in. It simply is not fair that these conferences have nothing to play for.

    If you did include them in the playoff mix, these conferences would start to compete for players and we would have a much better overall product to watch in 10 to 15 years.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    naaa. . . Footbal should be decided on the field
    the excitement is watching the spectable

    Hell I been arguing with someone all day
    why Texas and OU deserve their spots over Florida
    [he is an SEC HONK and drinks their koolaid in big heeping gulps]

    This is what the BCS is about Buzz .. but in the end
    Playoffs are where it is at

    this is why I don't care where the rockets land 1-8
    just be in the 1-8
    and they have a shot

    I am not as big a college football person
    so this is lost on me .. .because if the NBA did this
    I would no longer be a fan

    Rocket River
    More of a fan of watching the college Footballers b*tch about it
    at this point . . . it is more entertaining than a playoff system
     
  18. SoSoDef76

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  19. NIKEstrad

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    You're right, that's not the scenario. But the BCS did discuss the possibility of 3 Big XII teams earlier.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-bcs20-2008nov20,0,2096936.story

    Basically, it would've required an unbeaten Tech or Texas losing to Mizzou in the Big XII game while Texas/Tech remain above the SEC teams, sending Mizzou to the Fiesta Bowl and a Texas v. Tech MNC.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    excuse me for damaging you UT sensibilities
    How about an Ranked opponent that they can make a impressive
    OU/Tech style *ss Whipping on.

    Even if they not in the NC Game . . .they will end the season #2 :D

    Rocket River
     

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