[NCAA FOOTBALL] Colt McCoy back peddles on not going Pro

The question is valid
but
will he have that arm strength by the end of next Season?
If not .. . why stay?

That being said . . . Those are very good points on Arm Strength
I think we get overwork about can he throw is 60 yards
True measure is those outs. . . Zipping it in the Zone Coverage type things

Rocket River

 

Tom Brady anyone? Arm strength can be easily developed--Decision making, not so much

 

3rd round pick if he goes this year.

If Chad Pennington can win games in the NFL with his weak arm, I don't doubt an accurate, intelligent player can play in the NFL. McCoy will make it to the NFL.

 

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont...horns/entries/2008/12/08/mccoy_to_stay_f.html

 

Rich Gannon was a 4 time Pro Bowl, 1 time MVP winning QB and he couldn't throw a deep ball to save his life. He was a great decision maker, accurate as hell, intelligent, and an excellent scrambler who could extend the drive with his feet.

Put Jeff George's arm on Rich Gannon and you'd have the best QB of all time.

 

I'm a huge fan of Gannon, but he had two of the best all-time receivers to throw the ball to in Oakland. I doubt McCoy would ever have that same luxury in the NFL.

 

Yes, but you notice the Rich Gannon's of the world are the exceptions. The vast majority of NFL QB's come in with great arm strength. Mugsy Bogues was 5'3", but that doesn't mean being short isn't a huge disadvantage in the NBA.

 

Neither was one of the best in game by the time he was throwing to them.

 

They were both fantastic route runners that get open on a consistent basis in that west coast offense, even at their advanced age. If Gannon was so good, why didn't he do well in Minnesota and KC?

 

He was certainly a late bloomer. He did well in KC later in his career when given a chance, but Carl Peterson went with Elvis Grbac instead, and that was a huge mistake, The Raiders signed him up and he always put up great numbers, most of the time with Tim Brown as his only WR worth a ****. Al loved to keep his "scholarship" players around, guys like James Jett who could run a 4.3 40 but couldn't catch a cold. We drafted Porter in 2000, and he had a lot of talent but Gruden didn't want give him any playing time.

Jerry still had some great football left in him, but the MVP season in 2003 Tim and Jerry were both on the downturn of their careers and it was evident. Tim was running on fumes, using his knowledge of the game as his advantage, but Porter was quickly becoming a better option at that point.

Charlie Garner was the forgotten cog in that offense. He nearly put up dual 1000 yard seasons, and Ty Wheatley was still running with purpose as well with Zack Crockett an unstoppable short yardage specialist.

That team was filled with smart players, they didn't have a lot of studs physically, just wily veterans.

 

He had both Rice and Brown for 3 of those years, before that he had Rison (no slouch) and Brown. I'll give credit to Gannon as a QB, but I still think he owes a lot to his WRs. They always find a way to get open, and he never had to make a risky throw. I honestly think that if you put a guy like Pennington on that offense, he'd probably perform just as well.

I loved those 02-03 Raiders seasons, and I am still upset over the tuck rule. The 03 was just a smart team in general. One of their best acquisitions was Rod Woodson on defense, he really helped anchor that defense that year. I hope the Texans can find a veteran like that to provide leadership over a supposedly talented group.

 

I have to respectfully disagree, Rich had crazy intangibles. He was like a mad scientist, super-competitor who studied the game relentlessly and demanded perfection from everyone involved in the offense. Back during the playoff runs around the turn of the century he was still a dangerous scrambler. On 3rd and long he could look a linebacker onto his TE (The hideous Rickey Dudley) and then take off to the other side and slide right across the first down line. He had a fire and a passion not many QBs had.

He and Gruden would stay up til 4 AM analyzing game film.

He was a great orchestrator of offense, much like Peyton at the time... he had total control pre-snap, he knew when they were coming, he knew how to get his guys where they needed to be, he was a smart, smart dude and that made up for his sub-par arm.

When I look at Colt McCoy, I see a kid who became a man this season. He really looked to me like he was a cut above the others in that OU game. I'm not sold on Matt Stafford at all, I don't think he has "it."

I don't think Colt has all the tools to be a stud NFL QB, but he would most likely be taken on the 2nd day of the draft by a team that wasn't completely devoid of talent, and maybe if he got a shot later on down the road he could surprise a few people.

 

whew

 

I'm not denying Gannon's preparation, competitiveness, intangibles or ability to make the right pre-snap calls. He was probably the best west coast defense that didn't play for the 49ers. However, considering his lack of arm strength, he needed top receivers that can create space in order to be successful. He had that in Oakland, and he didn't have that in KC or Minnesota.

On McCoy, he'll probably need the same kind of scenario in order to be successful. He'll need to be in the right system, have the right personnel, and have the right coach in order to be successful. I'm definitely rooting for him though.

 

Hmm my hs plays lake travis in 4a semis.. goin up to College Station to watch the game ill see how good this guy really is.

 

Gilbert is freaking awesome.....we went to the game at DKR on Saturday, and it was sick how LT dismantled Killeen again. Furthermore, Gilbert looked like he could make all the throws, and he's extremely mobile. Not "Vick" mobile, but very capable of throwing on the run and moving chains with his feet.

 

Haha for our sake i hope not

 

He may as well stay because he wouldn't have been a high draft choice anyway. My guess is he figured that out during the brief time of indecision. Good choice for him and UT football.

 

Colt McCoy has a stronger arm than Joe Montana......it ain't all about the arm strength people.

DD

 

Uh huh. You comparing Colt McCoy to Joe Montana is like when Yao compared V-Span to Steve Nash: Complete nonsense. A better comparison would be Major Applewhite.