If you think a state openly and willfully defying the federal government then having the cheek to launch a lawsuit is the same as an individual f**king around... Funny you talk about immigration laws since Obama has deported more immigrants than any president by orders of magnitude. http://fusion.net/story/252637/obam...other-president-now-hes-running-up-the-score/ Might have something to do with his need to ensure that Laws be faithfully executed. "Bullying incidents?" http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...n-transgender-teen-suicide-conversion-therapy Giddy, keep your thoughts on tax and social policy in mind next time when you talk about kids starving: Obama has threatened to do it. The Republican Congress has actually done it, and this in orders of magnitude more than federal funding for education. I'm sure you cheered when it happened and said more needed to be done given your constant, stated desire to not pay a cent more for social good.
You might have heard of something called informed consent Bobby, that's what separates your argument from the whole "gay marriage" will equal bestiality bit logic you seem to be deploying. Last I checked, children or corpses can't give informed consent to sexual relations.
Not surprised: LGBT have been stigmatized for millennia, mostly due to religious bunk. Nobody cares until you make them care. Obergefell v. Hodges made people care. And other victories will, hopefully in time, happen again.
Please show me where I ever offered such a sentiment. If you can't find it, please retract and stop twisting or fabricating the words of those with whom you disagree. That would be the right thing to do.
fyi, a lot of pennies saved here: http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05...ches-3-5-million-kids-pro-life-hypocrisy.html Yes, this is the real cost of the balanced budget and deficit cutting you embrace repeatedly in the abstract. This is the real policy being enacted as a result. This is "take care of your own s**t" personified. If you're unhappy with starving children, I hope you are protesting the Republican Congress to the degree it deserves.
and so could you, German, if you ever visit future America when SCOTUS dismantles the notion of biological sex and repeals religion (lol) America, land of the sexually free, and the somewhat brave, just like the founders intended
Must I? As txtony fails to understand the difference between adults and children, i'll be sure there is no confusion with you too. When it comes to adults, there is a level of acceptance and responsibility. An adult should not view a bathroom as some sort of sanctuary, for either side. Facilities have always been a breeding ground for paranoia long before this pointless debate arose; From one way mirrors, to creepers, to child abductors. I dont quite understand why you find the resistance baffling. However, as adults, there comes a point where one just needs to suck up and accept things how they are. We can't cater to every single persons life issue. And I am referring to everyone, not just TG's. Children, specifically in a school settings, are very different. Their thought and behavior pattern from birth to adult hood change constantly. Children are not legally held accountable for their actions. Once a male hits puberty, we all understand they change drastically. If you can't see the issue with this unilateral "bathrooms for all" legislation and it pertaining to kids in school, you probably shouldnt be debating this issue.
Well, glad you've given up the boat on "adults" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gender-neutral-bathrooms_us_56fd6ccbe4b083f5c607262c huh, are you an education professional? Several schools in the Bay Area, Chicago, and all over the United States were already moving to implement gender-neutral bathrooms. What exact fear do you have that they don't? Do children also suddenly have to be exempted from unisex bathrooms? In any case, you're the one who put the hypothetical open--the trial case in question had the transgender individual assigned to a bathroom that fit their gender identity, and the rules of gender segregation were still enforced for the rest of the binary borings. If the school hadn't penned him into a forced bathroom of his own against his will, maybe we wouldn't have to debate Title IX funding.
I'll be frank with you. I do not recognize the notion of a transgender. Gender is a social construct. The likes of you should be trying to tear down this construct, not reinforcing it with confusion. I believe people should act and be how they feel w/out persecution...and I am not referring to just transgender movement. I really wish the LGBT crowd would just go away and live normal ordinary lives like anyone else. They have dominated the political landscape for the last two decades. Great! You have gay marriage. For the few people who did get married, they can now enjoy the misery straight couples went through. But really. Of the .03%, how many of those really care about this issue? Get fired up over something that really matters in this country, not some obsessive bathroom issue. What is really sad is the LGBT crowd has been a tool of distraction for politicians and you all dont see it. We are fighting over whether less than .03% can use a different bathroom!!! Climate change, terrorism, economy, class welfare ... and we are in a pissing match because a few people can't go piss in a different bathroom!!!
Yeah, and I wish I lived in a post-racial and post-gender world, but for the now and present, protecting those people who are fighting for the latter from irrational discrimination seems a worthy goal. Living a "normal ordinary life" is hard when you can get fired without cause for your identity, cannot access social institutions, are denied medical service, and are systematically sexually and physically harassed. And I would suggest you talk to the LGBT community about how many of them care about anti-discrimination laws. I think you'll be surprised how many of them will give lots of s**ts against irrational discrimination. Irrational discrimination is the bane of constitutional rule of law, if you refuse to recognize the importance of that, that's on you. 1) Caring deeply about an issue doesn't preclude caring about others, and in fact the level of intensity for caring is often, I've seen, correlated. 2) You don't have to care if you don't want to, the judicial system is perfectly capable of handling inconsistencies in the law without your input. You're free to start threads on the economy if that fits your relevance quota.
You can't hold having a better idea against me! Taking care "of your own ****" has nothing to do with any kind of budget other than a household one...
Quit diminishing what women and blacks went through by comparing TG's weird bathroom obsession issue. I have clearly stated I do not support persecuting or harassment. I believe in fair and equal rights for all, not just the LGBT crowd. Great. You have your gay marriage. However the LGBT crowd only cared about their selfish interests, never mind they could have been fighting for those same rights for those who wish to remain single/asexual/ect. Fairness and equality comes from respect, not legislation that forces people to accept beliefs that are contrary towards theirs. Spend more time encouraging acceptance of all instead of admonishing the "bigoted and evil right".
It really is disrespectful to every legitimate civil rights cause past present and future.....but special interest groups need funding and they don't care what levels they have to stoop to in order to get it. They're out of a job if they can't get morons to push their nonsense now that they are all out of legitimate causes.
No, because there are circumstances that cry out for help. If I recall, that quote you lifted was from a discussion about over-reliance on support and especially in the way of choosing abortion to solve a problem. You can really twist things to try and make your point... Gotta keep an eye on you.
There is no confusion. It's clear that you are going through all these (mental excuses and reasoning) because you want to protect something. You are protecting what you have been trained to believe in and that excluded any recognition of any deviation from you beliefs. You and all that object to TG have said they are practically invisible and as so, they don't have any material impact on you. Yet, no, given them protection and rights can't be had. Your point on Children is ridiculous. Why not male only and female only school? Why not white only? Why not rich only? Wait, some of those still exists and some of them did exists in recent history in this very nation. Just get on with it. Either free yourself from that mental bondage or be an adult and accept that the world is more than what you have been taught to believe.
The issue is that there's no way to truly prove if someone is a tranny or not, so from a practical standpoint you'd basically either have to do nothing at all (the smart route) or you'd have to completely end the segregation of the sexes. In this statement you are equating the segregation of the sexes to that of the races (which of course is incredibly disrespectful to those who had a legitimate civil rights cause to fight for) so it seems you are all for the idea of ending it entirely....you'll have quite a fight on your hands pushing that cause. Numerous groups on the left and the right would be out for your blood over that one as well as having those in the middle kind of laugh at you.
Oh, I'm now diminishing women and blacks by referring to legislation that corrects against irrational discrimination? This despite the fact that 250+ women's advocacy groups came out and said the argument against TGs in bathrooms was bunk? bahaha. Get offended harder, "PC snowflake" as they say. If you want to carve out rights for all, not denying them to some would be a good step to start. Ohhhh gay marriage wow, thanks for that bauble. Now try employment protections, consistent hate crime legislation, and the ability to elevate legal cases to a quasi suspect classification. And saying "fairness and equality" comes from "respect not legislation" IS diminishing how blacks fought for the CRA, and women, including Justice Ginsburg, fought stridently for equal protection through the courts. Not that I will use groups I AM NOT A PART OF TO TRY TO HIDE MY WEAK POINTS. When she judges a case of this magnitude, I wonder if her experience elevating women to a protected class will help or hinder her view on the whole matter. Encouraging acceptance for all comes with being more open with sexual preferences--that's how lesbians, gays, and bisexuals gained their victories. Aside from that, it's about fighting like hell for your rights as it always has been in America. For somebody who wants equal rights for all, you seem to spend a lot of time twisting yourself into mental pretzels for the opposite. You have no effective argument against anti-discrimination laws (which cover far more than bathrooms) so you are now at the pathetic point of trying to diminish the argument by referring to even more shameful pasts. What you're doing is the equivalent of saying anybody should feel bad for fighting segregation because it isn't as bad as slavery. It ignores history, evidence, and logic. In other words--it is complete bunk. As for admonishing the "bigoted right", I don't think this is something exclusive to the "right" and I also think their beliefs will die with them, so I'd prefer the term mocking. There is no debating with people who think "God doesn't make mistakes.", and I am not interested in debating those beliefs, just penning them in until a better, more secular world emerges.
This is really as simple as saying "I condemn wholeheartedly the Republican Congress that ACTUALLY cut funding rather than threatened to do so for starving children."
