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NBC Sports: When can Ed Reed play? The Texans have no idea.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Raven, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. Nook

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    When did Morey sign Pippen?
     
  2. Nook

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    I tell you what....... how would you rank Jeff Luhnow, Daryl Morey and Rick Smith?

    Is Smith as good or better than Morey and Luhnow?

    I suppose in fairness the owner could have been pushing for Reed, or Phillips.... and to make it clear, I hope that Reed plays 16 games, our defense is dominant and we win the Super Bowl.
     
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    Morey
    Smith
    Luhnow (i understand he's just trying to build up the farm system so it's not like i think it's a horrible GM)

    i just find it silly to make a general statement like Luhnow and Morey would'nt get played when they too have signed horrible contracts. maybe the players weren't hurt but they didn't and don't contribute (Carlos Pena) much at all.
     
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    I get your point, although I would argue that Pena and White are different situations. Neither were expected to be key cogs in an elite teams success.

    The whole Ed Reed situation was just bizarre. Further, I would not be surprised at all if the Texans owner pushed hard for Reed.
     
  5. DonkeyMagic

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    The excessive ridicule for this is a bit much. 1) everyone is just speculating. 2) who cares if he misses a few games early in the season...he was brought here to make big plays in the playoffs. 3) it's not like the texans gave him a huge contract so even if it doesn't work out the damage is relatively low 4) texans realized a concern there and spent a very high pick on a safety so even if Ed doesn't work out I think they have a pretty good young guy to step in.

    As for him being a key cog...i guess you can say that but I'm not sure I would use that term. He is probably the 4th, 5th, or even 6th most important player on the defensive side of the ball.

    As for the assertion that no other GM in town would/could have something similar happen...that's just ridiculous. All GMs misread a situation, whether it's drafting a player who was clearly insane of signing a 34 year old that had a hidden injury.

    much ado about nothing at this point. It's July and someone needed to get some page clicks.
     
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    Couldn't have said it better, literally.
     
  7. Rick Rambis

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    I was ok with the signing of Reed initially, because the contract seemed to be a situation where you only needed him to contribute in year 1 and that he would be easy to cut in years 2 and 3 if his play deteriorated. As a lack of information continues to come out of Texans camp, my worry on Reed playing a significant amount of games this season is increasing.
     
  8. Rick Rambis

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    Comparing GMs across sports is incredible difficult. I think most of this board would indicate that Morey is the best but the guy does have only 1 playoff (series) win over his tenure. Future results will be what Morey is remembered for, but it looks promising. I think Rick Smith had a horrible start to his tenure as GM of the Texans with some terrible signings and poor draft selections, but I think the team has really improved both in their drafts and in their signings. The Ed Reed signing is a huge risk for the team, but the money is not unbearable and if it pans out (doesnt look good) it could look like a genuis move. While Lunow is well respected around MLB for his work with the Cardinals, to judge his Astros contributions at this point would be foolish. The guy has not been in charge for long enough to consider ranking him at all and we all know the team and farm system he inherited was awful.
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    I could agree with the lack of information, however, the texans are a pretty tight lipped organization in general. Plus, again, it's july...a lack of information would be expected.
     
  10. Rick Rambis

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    Agreed. And hopefully we will get some information soon... Specifically July 25 when veterans report to camp
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    I definitely think people should prepare themselves for him seeing little to no action in camp other than jogging and light drills. There is just no reason to rush him along, assuming you even could given his injury and age. The guy knows how to play football at this point in his life. He just needs to focus on a full recovery and I don't care if that goes well into the season
     
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    andrew bynum part 2!!! lol
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    did you really laugh out loud after you typed your own unfunny joke?
     
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    There is absolutely no reason to rush him along. And no one should panic. But there's cause for concern. His other hip injury in 2010 had him discussing retirement...and Dr. Kenneth First says recovery from a surgery like this is 4-6 months. Given that the man is pushing 40, I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect it to be earlier than that.

    I can't understand not caring if it goes well into the season and Reed still isn't playing. We lost Quin, who I think is vastly underrated by the crowd here that thinks the Texans front office can do no wrong. We signed a rookie. He may be awesome..he may not be...he may need time to develop, like our good friend, Kareem Jackson, who was flat out terrible his first couple of seasons. But I think this team is going to need Ed Reed to be effective for them to be the kind of defense I think they're going to need to be in order to get where I hope they get. I don't think that's being pessimistic, either. I don't expect the Texans did all their courting of Ed Reed in the hopes that he'd miss a bunch of games and force their hand starting a rookie in a season where one playoff win and out isn't going to make anyone feel good.
     
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    I'm kind of to the point where I'd rather have Ed Reed as the backup and subbing in on certain packages. Let Swearinger show us what he has and take the lumps and seasoning that comes in the regular season. If Reed wants to be primetime in the playoffs, so be it. But he's a one year insurance policy in my eyes.
     
  16. DonkeyMagic

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    Because that's assuming that Ed is healthy down the homestretch and for the playoffs. I'm just saying, Ed is here to make/win the superbowl...that's why he was signed. I get the whole "every game counts" aspect, but the texans should be able to make the playoffs with or without Reed so, to me, his real value comes playoff time.

    I don't think many people underrate GQ. It was hard to see him go but I understand the decision. And i'm sure Swearinger will have his growing pains but, unlike the CB position, rookie safeties can have big and productive years. It's not as difficult as a CB adjusting to the NFL.
     
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