[nbatv-gary payton] "I think Houston is better without McGrady"

the problem with a healthy tmac is that he still wouldn't play defense, wouldn't set picks for his teammates, wouldn't move without the ball, wouldn't drive to the basket. he would still continue with pull up jumpers and "all on me" attitude. we cannot pretend that this is all of the sudden happening this season. He's always been this type of player.

Tmac has been a poor shooter for 3-4 years now shooting in the low 40's because he doesn't attack the basket anymore. hasn't played a lick of defense except when Van gundy orderd him to guard Dirk in the playoffs that one year. he has always had poor shot selection. never moved without the ball. when he plays, the team never has movement. this isn't a one year type of thing we are just now experiencing. we are merely getting a bigger dose this year because his injuries make it so apparent. so if you ask me if we are better with a "healthy Tmac"? hell no.

if tmac was still doing his thing from last year, wafer, brooks, artest, scola and all those role players wouldn't have been able to shine. noone would be given the chance to take responsibility for the team cause it's all tmac. we woudn't have this kind of movement or chemistry on this team. the argument is about late in the game that we need a guy like tmac to be clutch and create for teammates. wow, you just wonder. most of the time, we wouldn't even be in this kind of situation if tmac wasn't playing. we probably wouldn't even have to talk about winning in the closing seconds against the clips, griz, or bucks. afterall, we got a guy in tmac that will play to the opponents level. you know how he talks about turning it on and imposing his will. yup, bring it up a notch against the spurs and stat pad against the clips. i have no doubt we play better without a "healthy tracy". Tracy have never played team ball his entire life and team ball is what you need to win in the playoffs

 

that's why you're in the tmac fanclub. cause all you think about is one-on-one and dominating the ball. what would this team be if every time we run into trouble we start going one-on-one? follow the game plan..

 

agree seriously~

 

You can say that about anyone but obviously at this point in time in his career he is limited. Would I like to have a healthy motivated Tmac who embraces RA's offence? Yes I would but that is hardly the case.

 

you can't be serious..? honestly.. other than Wafer missing an open Yao twice in the fourth.. And Tracy finding Yao better than most.. i didn't see much seperation in quality of execution in a 4th quarter.. between this team in this game.. and the Tracy led version.. i think it just appears "better" to you and less "sloppy".. because there's less collective passing.. and incorporation of more than one player.. on late quarter plays.. with Tracy.. play-making was rarely instilled in his late-in-the-game approach..

but here's something that happened regularly with Tracy.. but not without.. the effort is there in the team.. on both ends.. from tip-off to final buzzer.. decisiveness, execution of the offense with purpose.. has been more prominent and consistent among the group.. and they're no longer playing down to the level of their opposition..

I blame the continuing problem of the team's shaky 4th quarter execution.. w/wo/Tracy.. on the stubborn adherence to force feed Yao no matter how expectedly defended and countered that play is by the other team.. late in the game..

 

hadn't*

 

Hmm..
Am I the only one that noticed a lot of 'team' basketball during the 22game win streak?
McGrady played a huge part in it.
We also wrecked on Defense.
McGrady was being considered for MVP.
I think that a lot of you guys are simply judging the team that played with an unhealthy McGrady that also had minimal time to gel and create chemistry.
McGrady is all about winning.
We would be a better team with a healthy McGrady.
We just needed him healthy and more time to figure out how to get some consistency.

 

i'm sure he's talking about this year's mcgrady. isn't he injured this year tinman?

 

Is this the same Gary Payton that said Kenny Smith rode the coattails of Hakeem to a championship? The same Gary Payton that tried to diss Kenny and then The Jet put him in his place?

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=161382&page=1&pp=20

 

w/o T-MAC,the record is 15-6.so The glove speaks the truth .

 

A very good post!

 

wow, gary payton is soooooooo incredibly smart.

well, actually, i guess most teams are if they substitute injured players who can't give 100 % with guys who are on top of their games...

i like how some smart asses make stupid points and then the haters jump on their bandwagon.

this whole situation is so ridiculous and all those people who are complaining about all the drama should realize they are probably one real big part of the drama.

 

I guess you didnt see the games that T-mac played in Toronto and Orlando.
And what we need is someone like Kobe not T-mac.

 

He's obviously grown up since then.....
He had no other options then.
He was THE TEAM.

 

Great post! Orlando was better the second they traded Tracy away, and the Rockets are better now. Unfortunately, T-Mac fans will not understand your post. All they look at is the points the guy scores. They do not understand that when Tracy scores 30 points that it usually comes at the teams expense.

 

haha nice

 

Hmm ... good post.

 

Haha this is every funny stuff

 

It is not just about injury versus non injury it is about style of play and chemistry.

It is exactly what I have been saying, we are better without him....healthy or not....the way he plays (having to dominate the ball) makes it too easy to guard the Rockets, and thus is one of the primary reasons for failure in the playoffs.

The Rockets are better off overall playing TEAM ball, than they are playing TeaMac ball.

The only way it would not be true is if Tmac came in and suddenly changed the way he has played his whole life, and started moving OFF the ball and playing within the team concept, if he comes back and plays that way..then great......but it would be a major adjustment....I just don't see him doing that.

Just my opinion.

DD