Hughes for 12M is ridiculous! I like Hughes but he is nowhere near worth Max money. Ya know, how much better is Hughes really than Ricky Davis, a player they moved previously. Better defender and probably better overall but not at 12M! They should have just stuck with Davis. To me IF (and it is still at rumor stage right now) they sign Hughes for 12M the value isn't 12M for Hughes as much as it is keeping LeBron happy to stay with the franchise which in reality is the ultimate long term goal. If you have to "overpay" a player to get them there to keep Lebron, then you do it for the long term.
Thanks for posting the link. Any article or excerpt of an article you post should be accompanied by a link to it.
so didnt the Cavs need some outside shooting? well they didnt get it in Hughes.. wow what a nice contract but completely overpaid. - this is the kind of knee jerk reactionary crap GM's do when there top FA targets are no longer available and the GM goes into panic mode. J
Wow, I can't believe there's so much negativity about Larry Hughes here. Personally, I think he's a great player. He's not getting paid Michael Redd money, and I think I'd take him OVER Redd anyway due to his well rounded game. With Redd you get a sharp shooter. With Hughes you get a defensive presence who can distribute the ball, rebound better than most at his position, create havoc/turnovers, score ... I say well done Cleveland.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/basketball/nba/cleveland_cavaliers/12082960.htm Cavs turn focus to Hughes By Brian Windhorst Beacon Journal sports writer LAS VEGAS - By the time Michael Redd made his return to the Milwaukee Bucks official, the Cavaliers had long since moved on. Redd's agent, Kevin Poston, confirmed Thursday to the Associated Press his client would re-sign with the Bucks for roughly $90 million over the next six years. The most the Cavaliers could offer under salary-cap rules was around $70 million over five years. It was a blow to the team, which had made Redd its No. 1 target with a $28 million kitty for free agents. But the Cavaliers can't afford to pout. According to multiple league sources, the Cavaliers entered into serious contract talks with Washington Wizards unrestricted free-agent shooting guard Larry Hughes Wednesday night. Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry and coach Mike Brown did not come to the Vegas Summer League for the team's first game Thursday so they could remain in Cleveland to continue talks. Redd informed the Cavaliers he'd be returning to Milwaukee shortly after his visit Wednesday. The team quickly moved on to Hughes. An insider close to the Wizards said that the team's initial offer to Hughes was for a contract starting between $6 million to $8 million per season. It apparently upset Hughes. Hughes was part of a three-headed attack that led the Wizards to the playoffs last season for the first time since 1997. Gilbert Arenas will make $10.2 million next season, and Antawn Jamison is due $13.8 million. Hughes, who averaged 22 points and led the league in steals, apparently believes he should be equally paid. It is possible the Cavaliers will do that, offering him as much as $12 million to start. The danger for the Cavaliers, as it is for all teams with massive cap room, is that they are being used to drive up the price. Hughes has expressed a desire to remain in Washington, and the Wizards have said retaining him is their No. 1 off-season priority. If the Wizards match the offer, Cavaliers could end up being the bridesmaid again. Both Redd and Ray Allen, who promised to re-sign with the Seattle SuperSonics for five years and $85 million earlier this week, might have used the Cavaliers' interest to get every last dime. If Hughes falls through, the Cavaliers will likely turn to Los Angeles Clippers guard Bobby Simmons as their next option.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36549/20050708/hughes_to_cavaliers_premature/ Hughes To Cavaliers Premature? 8th July, 2005 - 11:15 am Akron Beacon Journal - While NBADraft.net is reporting that Wizards forward Larry Hughes' move to the Cleveland Cavaliers is all but done, Akron Beacon Journal writer Brian Windhorst has a different view. While Windhorst confirms that Hughes and the Cavaliers are talking, it appears that any deal is far from done. Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry and coach Mike Brown did not come to the Vegas Summer League for the team's first game Thursday so they could remain in Cleveland to continue talks. An insider close to the Wizards said that the team's initial offer to Hughes was for a contract starting between $6 million to $8 million per season. It apparently upset Hughes. Hughes was part of a three-headed attack that led the Wizards to the playoffs last season for the first time since 1997. Gilbert Arenas will make $10.2 million next season, and Antawn Jamison is due $13.8 million. Hughes, who averaged 22 points and led the league in steals, apparently believes he should be equally paid. It is possible the Cavaliers will do that, offering him as much as $12 million to start. The danger for the Cavaliers, as it is for all teams with massive cap room, is that they are being used to drive up the price. Hughes has expressed a desire to remain in Washington, and the Wizards have said retaining him is their No. 1 off-season priority. If the Wizards match the offer, Cavaliers could end up being the bridesmaid again. Both Michael Redd and Ray Allen might have used the Cavaliers' interest to get every last dime. If Hughes falls through, the Cavaliers will likely turn to Los Angeles Clippers guard Bobby Simmons as their next option. [READ]
If it's true, it'll be a move Cleveland might regret. If I were running the Cavs, I'd be trying to bring in guys like Simmons, Daniels, or Haslem. Don't overspend for a psuedo-star. Get yourself a well-rounded roster, not one or two shot-chuckers. Hughes just isn't worth more than 8 million per. Save max dollars for true stars that can win you games all on their own. Evan
Hughes is a better player, but a shooter like Mobley would have been a better fit (and a lot cheaper). I wonder how much they'll be willing to spend on Ilgauskas now.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2103569 ESPN confirming with quotes from Hughes agent. Hughes is a very good player, but that's a lot of cheddar.
I'm also surprised at the indignation on this thread. Maybe it's because of my well-documented moron-ity, but I had Hughes at the top of my FA list in the backcourt. All his injuries have been freak things, he can handle both guard spots very well, and I much prefer his overall game to Allen (too old) and Redd's (too much money).
Whoa, 5 years at 65-70 million is even more than the original report. That's 13-14 million. Isn't that the max? I mean wasn't Cleveland offering $70 million to Redd also.
12 mil/year for 7 years spent on Hughs? Talent wise, I dont think Hughs is much better than ricky daivis. Cavs needs to spend money on the front court!
Another reason why cap space is overrated. All that planning and sh*t just to blow it on Larry freakin Hughes? Hilarious.
He fills up the stat sheet, but he's not a dead eye shooter. Catch 22. They'll get a lot better fast, but if you ask me Cleveland needs to think bigger with the money they have. Maybe just save it and try again when they can get a big fish with it.
Redd too much money? And $13 million a year for a guy who can't shoot 3s when you already have Lebron is better?
Larry Hughes is a pretty dang good Plan C, even at that price. He's younger, more athletic, more versatile and $3-4 million/year cheaper than Allen or Redd. He's not the Final Piece, obviously, but he, Lebron and Z could carry the Cavs deep into the playoffs next year.
They probably overpaid, but I can see why the Cavs would be interested in Hughes. They probably view him as someone that can be the Pippen to LeBron's Jordan. Hughes can guard the other teams best perimeter player every night and he can take on some of the point guard duties so LeBron can concentrate on scoring.
This is a desperation signing. They had Davis locked up for less than half of what they're about to shell out to Hughes and they traded him for nothing. Davis isn't the ball-handler or ball-hawk Hughes is, but he's a much better shooter, more durable and taller. The Cavs would have been better off making peace with him and Miles.
