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NBA vs China Rd. II - Kanter calls out Xi

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Raz, Oct 21, 2021.

  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    the inflated salaries the NBA players have are due to China.
    Look what happened with Morey.


    https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/loss-of-china-revenue-exceed-200-million

    SEP 30, 2020
    NBA's loss of China revenue estimated to exceed $200 million for season
    SAM AMICO
    • Kevin Arnovitz of ESPN.

      Issues between the league and China began last October, when Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey sent out a tweet supporting Hong Kong protestors fighting for democracy.
     
  2. tinman

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    different industries.
    Movies that are on streaming services vs sports entertainment.

    Hollywood is counting China as a major revenue stream for theatrical launches.
    Netflix isn't in the business of theaters.

    the NBA is tied to Tencent (basically a frontman for doing business in China) , Tencent controls video games and tv content in China. if you had ever watched the Rockets during the China licking Les Alexander days, there were LOTS OF TENCENT ads
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent
    Tencent Holdings Ltd., also known as Tencent, is a Chinese multinational technology conglomerate holding company. Founded in 1998, its subsidiaries globally market various Internet-related services and products, including in entertainment, artificial intelligence, and other technology.[3] Its twin-skyscraper headquarters, Tencent Seafront Towers (also known as Tencent Binhai Mansion) are based in the Nanshan District of Shenzhen.
     
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    Oh I remember…all too well. Companies are going to have to make tough choices between money or country because cold war part 2 is coming.
     
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    LOL
    and people here think Facebook is a 'monopoly'

    Do I need to talk to Facebook if I want to show the Rockets game, or get Call of Duty for players in China? or a make a dumb Matt Damon (Bostonian) movie?
    Yeah.
     
  5. Commodore

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    Silver and the owners have got to be furious at Kanter, gotta love it

    What will Popovich and Kerr have to say? They are usually so vocal about social issues.

     
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    Reminder that it was widely recorded in history that the German business community saw Hitler as the best bet for retaining wealth. The NBA would be smart in the longrun to take a stand now early on that they aren't going to side with brutal dictators just because of revenue. I think the NBA can lead here and other organizations can follow suit and actually cause China to ease up a little bit.

    The global economy won't collapse if the NBA, and lets say 5 other global organizations make a very public divorce with China but I do think even 5 or 6 high profiles organizations doing this will affect Xi in a positive way. I read Xi as someone who cares very much about his reputation as a safe bet for business, and high profile organizations publicly breaking with him actually makes an impact. If orgs like the NBA bends over again and again it's just going to reinforce him to double down.
     
  7. tinman

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    @edwardc
    @J.R.
    @Nook

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    Also pretty clearly shows Taiwan as not part of China. You know, in case we are using random 1940s stamps from the other side of the world as definitive and absolute proof...
     
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    You sir, either have poor eyesight or is a troll. Taiwan island was reclaimed by Republic of China from Japan in 1945 after the defeat of Japan. My point was, the US government recognized Tibet and Taiwan as part of the China as far back as 1944. How much does a Turkish person know about the history of this part of the world ? I am not talking about the justification of Tibet's inclusion as part of China, I am just saying US government recognized and recognizes the legality of it. Write to your congressman to change the official US stand.
     
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    @KingCheetah -- cleanup in aisle/isle Taiwan. Paging @KingCheetah.
     
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    oh i agree they should keep on doing them forget china.
     
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    The league knows i can get that back by just open up more games to other countries.The Philippines,Australia and Canada are just a few.
     
  13. tinman

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    This is streaming and merchandise salary
    Not game attendance
     
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    Kanter may not play defense, but he surely has balls.
     
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    China can’t cancel the Boston Red Sox
    We did that
     
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    30 posts since 2002 and two of em here, someone really wants to defend the motherland. :oops:
     
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    They're independent contractors in a performance medium with multi-billion dollar television, radio and streaming deals. They're also largely still young and black or immigrant men who had to sacrifice enough of their educationally and professionally formative years to be easily exploitable, so there's literally no middle ground between getting the share of revenue that would otherwise go to a company's inventory, labor and production costs, or getting paid like sharecroppers then being discarded at the drop of a hat or having their incremental market value appreciation swallowed up by involuntary trades and cash payments that never touch their hands. Collective, representative and self advocacy of black athletes' economic and participatory interests have informed America's entire history of labor rights, racial discrimination and racial bias in journalism and media production and content presentation. Not breathlessly attacking a communist on the other side of the globe thirty years after a half-century of every organ of society doing it every day doesn't negate that.

    The minute Xavier McDaniel and Tom Gugliotta want to abolish public healthcare options or the capital gains tax, or try to convince black Americans to oppose Social Security because we "die quicker," and we can collectively Stargate to an alternate universe where Donald Trump was never elected, nominated or even allowed entry into a primary debate, is when your analogy holds water.
     
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    We have to make them. For national security. I am about liberty but not the liberty to collude with an enemy state. Such business ties should be phased out quickly. A ban on increasing ties with China should also be put in place. We need to lead the international community and isolate this evil state.
     
  19. Gioan Baotixita

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    Lol at the 50 cent little pink soldier calling people trolls.
    Where is our resident WinnieTheFlu’s personal bodyslave Adoo?
    Paging Adoo, paging Adoo.
     
  20. Gioan Baotixita

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    Always been a big fan of Kanter. Now, love him even more. Imagine if the whole world is standing up to these commies, they will crawl back to their hole and die.
     

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