I'm in agreement. If hype were not where it is now (next Steve Nash/Tony Parker), and more realistic (Carlos Arroyo or better), then its still not all THAT bad. And yeah that's IF he were to be at Arroyo level now, not saying he actually is. I don't even think he's gonna that much more oppurtunity now or later this year, and we'll have to see what happens with him...
Well that proves my point very well, thanks... A team with 4 average nba players ended at #16. That shows the level of competition. Depends how you see it, you have to follow those tournaments to understand how it works... Those are national teams with the creme of bball players representing their country, so it's not easy for someone to score like 20ppg especially when you play on a balanced team. Yeah, Gasol scored 19ppg for Spain and Manu 15ppg for Argentina but that's about the same averages they make in the nba. Garbajosa had like 12ppg in world championship and scores 8.4 in Toronto as a rookie. Spanoulis could have been up there right now with Garbajosa who will play They also had Tiago Splitter who's projected to be anywhere between lottery pick to late first round in this year's draft. Those guys supported by other domestic stars couldn't even make it past the preliminary round to the top 16. Shows the level of competition where VSpan was pretty good and that makes him think he could play more as a back up.
Well, YAO also said that the next kid from China, Yi Jianlian, will be a better player than him. I've seen Yi play a lot, there is no way he will ever be a better player than Yao Ming. Yao was also a big fan of Stro, and we all know how this board feels about him. Anyways, what else do you expect teammates to say about each other? Do you really think Yao would say, "He's not ready. Right now he is a turnover machine and will need lots of time to develop." Of course you don't say that. You say the most positive thing you can to give them confidence.
People aslso forget that 15 of Span's points were kind of fluke points. It is insane that he hit three 3 pointers in one game (much less went 3-5) and then he was fouled on two other three pointers (for no reason other than the US players stupidly ran into him) for six more points. The rest of his line - 3 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 turnover, 4 fouls - was nothing special. I actually was hoping he would have a killer game and was excited when I heard he put up 22. I was disappointed later when I actually watched the game and saw how he got those points.
This is a post on Vassilis' performance during the world championship games from another thread. I think it's pretty informative on his performance in Japan: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=2713647&postcount=241
are u kidding me?? do u have FSN? League pass? have u actually watched any games this season? Spanoulis didn't get a SINGLE minute playing PG in the regular season. not a single freakin minute. he played the 2 everytime JVG put him in, he might have dribbled the ball up the court once or twice because of a trap on Rafer or Head, but even in trash time, Span plays the off guard and Lucas "the ballhog" plays the 1.. once again, expecting so much of Vspan isn't realistic, suggesting that he starts isn't smart either. but why not give him 7-10 minutes a game when Rafer is on the bench? I dont want him to "develop", that's not my main goal, I want somebody to play PG other than Lucas and Head in the 10 minutes that Rafer gets his rest in.. and unfortunately, all we are left with is Vspan, so we have to play him. we cant play Rafer for 48 minutes, and we cant let Lucas jack up 13 shots either, and I dont want to see Head dribbling between his legs in the backcourt and spending 10 seconds bringing the ball up or dribbling it off his foot.. just 8 minutes, that's all I am asking for! Tmac can handle 5 minutes of PG to give Rafer a 13 minutes rest: Span's 8 + Tmac's 5= 13 minutes of rest for Rafer.. 48-13= 35 minutes a game for Rafer.
The guy was right. JVG is playing him at the 2 to limit his turnovers. Less touches on the ball means less turnovers for V-Span. Another reason is to expand his game. Since everyone thinks he can play PG, why not work on his shooting game? Anyways, are people forgetting his play in the preseason. That is the reason why lots of fans and even JVG, called him a "Turnover Machine". Yeah, he's barley played PG in the regular season, I wonder why? Maybe its because he averaged more turnovers than assist when he played PG in extended minutes during the preseason.
DaDakota, Maybe we are. Take a look at the Knicks - Isiah Thomas, hell of a player, but a terrible coach, GM, and businessman (ran the CBA into the ground). I don't think their ability to judge talent is necessarily better than you or I, like saying Van Gundy could play the game any better than you or I. Players play, coaches coach, and GM's scout. I don't see why that's hard you to accept. Further, in this particular case, if we accept your proposition and listen to the gospel according to Clyde, the reason for Spanoulis not playing is simple - he's playing behind a guy who could possibly make the all-star team! But I suppose you'll use your selective judgment, and listen to Clyde with regard to Spanoulis, but not with regard to Rafer. RocketsMac and rhino, It doesn't matter what twisted view of the game RocketsMac sees. Spanoulis has not been as good as Lucas in games, nor as good as Head has performed at the point. Most observations bear that out, and the stats bear that out pretty conclusively. Moreover, if Clutch's sources are correct and Spanoulis has been outperformed in practice up to this point, there's just no basis to be playing him over guy's who are of similar contract status and age.
Don't give us that. Luther, as both starting/backup SG, turns the ball over less than vspan, even with his crappy handles and lack of court vision. If vspan played luther's minutes he'd be getting over 3 turnovers a game! Forcing the ball into a guy's hands means more turnovers. It's true of every player, even Steve Nash. If vspan turns the ball over more times at SG than JL3 does as the primary ballhandler, then he just doesn't protect the ball enough to be the primary ballhandler. Playing vspan at off-guard may be hurting his assist numbers, but it's cutting down his turnovers too. His preseason stats indicate that. And you'd better believe that his assists help us less than his turnovers hurt.
Rockets Dynasty, welcome back to the board. Why don't you regale us of the time you were at the game and saw Spanoulis dunk on Jordan and Pippen and then Pippen and Jordan got ejected and to this day walk to the other side of the street when they see a Gyro vendor, which you know because you were there and you saw it....?
ha ha ok it was the world championships!! but yeah vspan is the best point guard that has ever set foot on a basketball court. and if you believe that i am serious about that comment, then heaven help you.
