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NBA-TV comments on V-Span

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by T-2, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. YallMean

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    :D :D

    You are consistently wrong or what?
     
  2. windfern

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    are you saying that CD is an idiot for signing a guy WITHOUT a talent?

    VSPan is an MVP in the euroleague and he led his team to a championship and his defense pushed the US team away from winning the Olympics.

    The guy is without a talent?

    You're a moron!
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Alston 3pt%: .359
    Spanoulis 3pt%: .200
    Alston FG%: .366
    Spanoulis FG%: .304

    If Spanoulis thinks he should get more PT because of Rafer's shooting, he should probably try to be BETTER than Rafer at it. On a per minute basis, Alston is better than Spanoulis in pretty much every category (V-SPAN has an advantage in FT%).
     
  4. Easy

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    Can we trade with Panathinaikos? Do they have someone we can use?
     
  5. SamFisher

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    If Clyde approaches commentating the same way he approached coaching, I'm going to go out on a limb and venture a guess that there's very little research behind his forecast.

    I'd take Tony Delk off their hands if he has anything left in the tank - maybe a big if at this point.
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    Why was he once UH coach?

    Because he couldn't spot nor develop talent. Clyde was an awful coach. And as announcer, he's been full of hyperbole - calling Rafer Alston a darkhorse candidate for the all-star game THIS year. And as far as how much Clyde sees of Billy...he's never with them on the road, and at best he sees a scatter practice here and there.

    Quotes from Clyde or Yao mean nothing. The ability to play the game at the highest of levels doesn't mean you can spot talent, or coach talent. TMac also said Swift would be an all-star.

    Players play, coaches coach.

    windfern - Spanoulis was MVP of a playoff series. He was NOT the Euroleague MVP. From his nba.com bio, here, he was 2nd team All-Euroleague. Pretty good, but not MVP. Contrast that with Ginobili, who was a 2-time MVP of his league when he came to the NBA. BIG difference.

    Stop bringing up the World Championships as proof VSpan will be great. If one game against the US in international play, Carlos Arroyo and Puerto Rican National Team's 19 point victory and his 25 point, 7 assist, 4 steal performance would mean he's more than a marginal backup PG. He's not.
     
  7. dudelos

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    ummm, yeah he had one good game and it happened to be against the US,
    you're right he went cold for two games, oooooooooooooo big deal. what did jvg tell him to do? keep shooting. all of you realize that jvg has never pulled rafer alston out of the game for bad shooting, never this season. and he would pull stro out after one mistake, novak after one mistake, vspan after a bad play. im not the coach, but i like what the coach does, play rafer alston and back him up with the person who gives us the chance to win, luther head. it doesnt matter if he doesnt have point guard skills, he still gives us a chance to win with his shooting (which vspan cant do). you can say all the **** you want to but you know what, the coach doing what i am arguing about gives me more credibility. you just have hypothetical opinions.

    im not saying that rafer is better than tmac, but tmac does take some pretty bad shots and according to this bbs, he cant do any wrong. if rafer misses the same shots he gets criticized.

    oh boo hoo, we lost a game, rafer has an off game, yeah its completely his fault, there werent other plays in the game where other players could have made stops. dude, rafer was guarding allen iverson, allen f*ing iverson and you blame him for losing the game. he did the best he could. allen gets alot of **** whistles from the referees, did you ever think that could have been the situation? ummm what about the last laker game that we played, when he kept making be play after big play and kept us from loosing that lead. and im not gonna go back to all the game records to find which games he did well in, but you cant deny all those 4th quarter three pointers that he's made and that's he's second in three point percentage in the fourth quarter. but a 27-16 record with rafer playing in every game isnt too bad.

    its not a contradiction, i was trying to prove my point on several of his teammates being reluctant to shoot at times. rafer is not the type of player who looks for his shot before his teammates, its a bailout. its not his fault that the play broke or his teammates put the ball in his hands for the bailout, even tmac puts the ball in rafer's hands for the bailout. oh yeah and im sure he's running down the clock francis style and doesnt pass to people, come on man, the ball goes back to him after he's passed it out, so how is rafer running out the clock?


    F%#$ you, i'd like to see you play every game for the rockets at pg and get a 27-16 record. And no he doesnt get enough credit because morons like you say vspan has better point guard skills.
     
  8. dudelos

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    yeah y'all can tell what i said and what rockets mac said, it screwed up somwhere
     
  9. Texas Stoke

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    You just like foreigners with cute acents. woowee wa wa.

    Try this. Pretend V-Spans an African-American and he said what he said, then what do we get?
     
  10. kokopuffs

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    Clyde also called Juwan a gazelle, said "nothing but net" on every shot regardless of whether it bounces around before it goes in, said Rafer was his dark horse to get into the all-star game, etc etc etc.
     
  11. txppratt

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    bottom line?

    because he dismantled the USA team in the olympics.

    it's the type of performance that just teases us into thinking he can do it day in day out, like tony parker or dirk or some other foreign star.
     
  12. highfly

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    Spanoulis is talented and creative. He has passion for the game and wants to be competitive anywhere he plays. The guy's got potential and has the credentials to prove it (European champion with his national team in 2005, World champion runner-up last year, distinctions in Euroleague with Panathinaikos etc).
    People who can't see or acknowledge that are either ignorant or just biggot rednecks who don't know any better and can't accept that a guy with a 'funny' accent can speak up and dare to ask for more chances to play. What he has to do is practice hard stay focused, think positive and ignore the haters, there are already many people who want him to suceed.
     
  13. Texas Stoke

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    I'll take it.

    We'd get a Steve Francis.

    See what i'm getting at.

    It's the same thing.

    Lets be consistent.
     
  14. Madman George

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    one thing is for sure. no one is indifferent about spanoulis. guys here either love or hate the guy! he is generating so much talk and he is just a rookie!! scrubbers don't generate so much noise cause ppl realize that they don't deserve it.
     
  15. Texas Stoke

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    i'm just pissed the dude scored with 6 power dancers. i'm jealous. now i REALLY hate him.
     
  16. Yetti

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    How can you say that- Steve was a selfish player who did not know how to be a playmaker. V span has never indicated that he is lacking in any of these departments.
     
  17. NIKEstrad

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    1. It wasn't the Olympics. And it was a 6 point victory. As I've already pointed out ad nauseum, Arroyo had an even better performance and beat the US by 19 with what was probably a weaker supporting cast. And that actually WAS the Olympics. In fact, even if you look at just the World Championships, Spanoulis' 22 was the 4th best point output given up by the US - behind Marco Bellinelli, Maleye Ndoye, and another great international performance against the US by Carlos Arroyo.

    2. He was the man in one game against the US, and inconsistent overall. Here is his FIBA profile from the tournament Spanoulis

    Notice a few things:
    a.) He shot more 3s than 2s. His natural tendency apparently was not attack, attack, attack.
    b.) As good as he was against the US, he was awful against Brazil - 0 points, 0 assists, 1 rebound, 5 turnovers, 4 fouls, 0-6 shooting in 21 minutes.
    c.) He followed up his US game by laying a dud 1-10 game against Spain for the championship.

    The proof is in the hot dog. The foul problems and turnover problems are nothing new. The inconsistency is nothing new. There is this strange, romanticized impression that he took the World Championships by storm - the reality is, he was 45th in points per game, shot about 36%, and was 102nd in assists with an AST/TO ratio less than 1.
     
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  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Great post, NIKEstrad. People need to relax on VSPan. He isn't ready yet.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    WOuld have been posted if the interwebs were around in March 1993.
     
  20. johnrox

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    no the reason is because us americans just don't like euros with funny accents, THAT is the reason he isn't playing:rolleyes:
     

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