It'll make no difference. The same terrible judgment will go into determining flops as determining fouls....
Thank you, I've been saying this for years. I guess it was too much to ask of an NBA official, guys that are supposed to be the best in the world at what they do, to correctly officiate a game. I wonder if this will drastically cut down on charging calls. You basically can't get a charge without a flop. Kids are taught from middle school to take the contact, and "sell" the foul by falling to the floor. This has been part of basketball for as long as I've watched it. That is the only way to draw a charge. Another knee-jerk reaction by the NBA, drastically altering the way the game is played (see allowing hand-checks, not allowing hand-checks, allowing zones, getting rid of "iso", the stupid circle under the basket where you can't draw a charge, etc) to protect their image or because they're afraid of losing money.
What, were you going to implement it in your own league? There is so much variance in player salaries, I think you must make the fine a percentage of wages. A small fine would not matter to someone like Shaq making $20 million, and a big fine could bankrupt someone like Landry making $500k. I'm hoping the shame accrued from having your flops officially recognized and tallied will be a deterrent. Of course, having your flops broadcast on tv and YouTube doesn't seem to have made a difference. Don't these guys have any self-respect?
I'm skeptical too. I'll believe it when I see the changes with my own eyes. But: I can just picture Sloan and that p***y organization arguing against this change. Kiridinko has probably already bought a one way ticket back to Russia. Harpring and every other a-hole associated with the Jazz are contemplating suicide. Dirk Nodickski is obviously never going to win an MVP again, but might not even make the all-star team anymore. Ginobilli will sux more then he does already. Yeah, lets trade him for Tmac. Devina Harris is probably applying to the WNBA as we speak. Derek Fisher will claim more family problems and look for an excuse to move to some crappy ass overseas league. D-Wade has already filed retirement papers.
I doubt a fine is going to stop flopping during playoff games. It's all or nothing when chasing a ring.
This is a step in the right direction, but... Is it really going to stop floppers? Even scrubby players make millions of dollars, so what's a $5,000 or $10,000 fine to them if it's the difference between winning an important game? Well, not much as far as I'm concerned. In my opinion they really needed to tack on a technical foul to these flops if they want the desired result.
I feel the same way. These bums have "star'' status.Only the easy ones to pick on will get the punishment.
Here's the thing with this: I'm glad that the league is finally acknowledging that flopping has very much taken over as part of the game, and they are doing something to curtail it. However, tell me.....in a close game that means something, do you think there is a single team out there that would make a player (AK-47 for instance) pay his own fine if his flop meant that they won the game? I'm still worried about the IN-GAME ramifications of flopping....I couldn't care less about hitting the players pocket books. I understand that if there is, say a $10,000 (I doubt it would even be that much for a first-time offense, but we'll see) fine for flopping, players would be less inclined to do it as egregiously as they are now.....but it won't stop them from trying it in the playoffs, when it really matters. We as Rockets fans (especially this year) know all too well that a flop can very well lead to a victory, and in that case, I sincerely doubt the player would think twice.
Wait...how is this going to work? I mean if the refs have to decide what flopping is then not much will change. Why aren't the refs simply not calling them now?
This will only work if 2 things happen: 1) Players who are regularly being fined for flopping(AK47 and Manu could top the list) are more closely watched by the refs so they'll no longer fall for their act. 2) The league suspends players after a certain number of fines are issued against them(kinda like the 16 technicals rule).
This is a step in the right direction, but will do nothing to stop in-game flops. Soccer has started directing referees to crack down, but it's done very little. It's a judgment call and is tough to do in the course of action...especially in the very fast moving NBA game. I like the idea of fines when they review the action. If a ref can see it, I think he's got to call a technical. Without an in-game penalty, the Jazz will not be affected. They'll have to pay some fines, but it won't stop the bs game that they play.
If they look after the fact and the offender is fined $5k per offense, I'm guessing you won't see crap like you see Manu and Vulovic (however the hell his name is spelled) doing constantly.
No effect at all. They are millionaires, the fine won't matter if the flop can earn their team an extra possession, or better still, a win.
I think you're underestimating just how hard it is to officiate an NBA game. Each official must keep his eyes on the guy with the ball, and his toes if he's on the perimeter, the on-ball defender, as well as 8 other guys jostling for position, shoving each other to try and get by, not to mention 3 seconds or defensive 3 seconds, which means they not only have to keep an eye out for a guy in the paint, but also make sure he close enough to another guy in the paint to make sure it's justified. All of this happens with some of the world's quickest athletes making split second decisions. The refs don't get to watch it in slow motion during a game, and they don't get to take a second look. This is why it is so difficult to call a flop. The NBA is probably the hardest sport to officiate. But, giving the league a chance to review plays and actually see what is happening is a good way to start to correct the problem. They won't catch everything. And I don't think anyone is going to get fined for going down when there is legitimate contact on a charge, but it will crack down on the tricks that so many players are starting to pull. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing a defender grab his opponents arm, throw it at his face and act as if he's the one who's been shoved. This kind of thing will be easy to correct and deserves a heavy fine. Any attempt to deliberately deceive an official should warrant a suspension in my book. I think suspensions and a "scarlet letter" type of punishment would be much more effective than occasional $500 fines. Maybe the offending player should have to play 5 games in bright pink socks. Or, they could change the name on the back of their jersey to "Nancy" or "Susan" for a few games. Ridicule would probably be more effective.
