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NBA scout on Rockets: "No one has more assets"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by desi tmac91, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. roslolian

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    You're forgetting that NBA players are getting paid way more money than b-ball players from the rest of the world. It shouldn't affect them, they're getting "hazard pay" from their salaries already though.

    Anyway I think it's just a matter of perspective. Here at work it's actually a compliment to be called an asset to the company, because then you're someone adding value to the org and thus less likely to get fired.
     
  2. roslolian

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    When you use view assets you have to look at their salaries though. Rudy Gay's a great asset at 4M a year but at 16M a year he's one of the worst liabilities in the league.

    Notice that Brewer, Chandler, Gallo and Iggy all play the same position. I find that to devalue assets quite a lot, because then other teams will know you're desperate to unload your players and will hardball you (ex. we only got 2nd rounder for 14th pick MM, and 4rth pick T-rob was acquired for just Ppat).
     
  3. konver5ation

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    When it comes to Denver's assets...

    1. Highly paid, hard to move multiple at a time
    2. Playing with beautiful synergy in a Hall of Fame coach's system

    GMs are ALWAYS wary of trading for high priced players succeeding in a system and gambling if you can get more if not just the same production out of them. GMs are much more interested in awkward, misplaced, underused and cheap talent than properly played & properly paid talent that isn't a superstar.

    Asset war winner: Houston.

    Any GM that has an ego (read: all GMs) can take risks on many our young, cheap, and (thanks to McHale and RGV) slightly awkwardly used players and turn X player into a cornerstone piece.

    I just consider the what the Lakers would look like with any of the two: Parsons, Motie, Asik, Delfino, Jones, White or Beverley. Pick the worst two and I guarantee their team is immediately better and all these players are on relatively lucrative deals easy to move potentially. (Delfino & Beverley would make the Lakers a dangerous playoff team IMO) If Morey wanted Pau at the trade deadline, I know he could have gotten him. No need to rush, gotta let Kevin Love heal up before we trade in our assets. ;)
     
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  4. studogg

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    spot on.

    Denver confuses the hell out of me. I personally hate the way their team is put together. It is straight second round fodder.
     
  5. Joe Joe

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    I would say that GMs view the player's contract as an asset. Player's skill, years left, options, and amount of contract all determine how valuable the contract is as an asset.
     
  6. Joe Joe

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    I think Morris is an example of having to look at salary. Him at his salary was viewed as being worth less than a second round pick. Playing the same position as others caused the Rockets to want to move him, but I don't think the second round pick was a low ball offer. The Rockets may have gotten a little more for him if they had more time to work on deal.
     
  7. MrButtocks

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    We have James Harden locked up for five years, young and productive players at every other position, and max cap space to chase another star this offseason. Whether or not you think Morey lacks the human element to his management style, there's no denying he's put the team in a great spot.
     
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    take away george karl and you'd have an 31 year old wanting to make 15 mil already makes 12 right? a point guard who makes just as much but barely gives you 2 buckets more than someone worth 8 million and less defense.

    I think we have a different interpretation of the meaning of asset. Asset=young, affordable with high potential.

    Chandler= best ass(set) on the team.

    Asik= double double centers don't grow on trees, especially for 8 mil. You should know. 44 million/ 4 years for Javal.

    Harden= you don't even consider trading unless you get back a durant.

    Demo= young and full of potential.

    Drob= A fifth pick that very little is know.

    Lin= He will eventually give you 2.3 pts and 2 assists than what he is giving you now. for 8 mil, that's damn good.



    the only assets for denver are Manimal, rooster and lawson
     
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    i thought the NBA scout was gonna say fire Mchale for benchin Lin but this koo too
     
  10. WinkFan

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    OKC had an asset.
     
  11. CometsWin

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    You're not a superstar until you win. You're not a good GM until you win. You're not a good team until you win. Do you notice the trend?
     
  12. CDrex

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    I was going to write a note on how championship teams have best players like Harden, not like Lawson or Iguodala. I was going to use a 20 PER as my baseline for a superstar and point out how only the Pistons have won without a 20 PER guy.

    Then I saw Javale McGee's PER.

    Then I cried. And remembered why I try to avoid using PER in arguments.
     
  13. emcitymisfit

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    Ty Lawson locked up at 12 million is pretty fair. Open market would give him a max deal.
     
  14. ZNB

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    So you are an all or nothing black or white no context kind of guy? In your view on how to evaluate a gm is the championship gm is good and the 29 other GM's are crap?
     
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    Im still not sold on Ty being a max guy. Good for him though that he is getting some recognition.
     
  16. WinkFan

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    So All NBA first team, Defensive Player of the Year, third in MVP voting Kevin Garnett was not a superstar?
     
  17. WinkFan

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    Is that the issue? Is the goal to win 1 title like Detroit or Seattle? Who gives a crap if you can put together a team like the Pistons to compete for several years and may win one if things break your way. The goal is to be the Bulls, the Lakers, or(probably) the Heat.
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    WHAT? WHAT?
     
  19. Spacemoth

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    I would be so pissed if I was a Nuggets fan. Pretty much a team put together to maximize their abilities which will NEVER EVER equate to a championship. It's almost like being a fan of the Texans with a glass ceiling over our heads named Matt Schaub...ok now you made me sad again... dammit Nuggets!
     
  20. CometsWin

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    Certainly not but I'm not going to pretend that 8 lottery seasons and one playoff series victory in 15 years is good. That sucks. You guys want to act like we hav the smartest team in the league, a team that hasn't made the playoffs in several years in a league where more than half of the teams make the playoffs. This team hasn't done a damn thing and I'm not going to pretend they have.
     

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