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NBA Finals: Dallas Mavericks vs. Miami Heat

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, May 25, 2011.

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What do you expect to be the result

  1. Dallas in 4

    6 vote(s)
    1.6%
  2. Dallas in 5

    12 vote(s)
    3.2%
  3. Dallas in 6

    113 vote(s)
    30.5%
  4. Dallas in 7

    43 vote(s)
    11.6%
  5. Miami in 4

    10 vote(s)
    2.7%
  6. Miami in 5

    40 vote(s)
    10.8%
  7. Miami in 6

    115 vote(s)
    31.1%
  8. Miami in 7

    31 vote(s)
    8.4%
  1. clippy

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    Man, as a Peja fan, that is flat out depressing.
     
  2. AstroRocket

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    Sad that they have to do that, but I like it. That's what the Rockets would have to do if our playoff crowds were anything like our regular season ones. Luckily we have some grade A bandwagoners.
     
  3. Seven

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    Donaghy has a point on some of those plays, but his analysis is so damn bad that it's hard to take him seriously. I hate Miami as much as the next guy, but the Custodian just shameful the way he flops. You have to call it both ways, and given the fact that he was an official, its embarrassing how he doesn't see this.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    It's good only you and two other people are depressed.
     
  5. tehG l i d e

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    In the end Peja is still rich, dating a supermodel, and has a good chance of ending up with a championship ring while sitting on the bench. Don't feel too bad.
     
  6. Steve_Francis_rules

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    The guy has absolutely no credibility. He's cherry-picking plays to fit his prediction before the series that the refs/league would hand the series to Miami.

    The fact that he chooses one bad call that went in Miami's favor in Game 3 is a joke. That was by far the most lopsided game in terms of officiated, and it was in Dallas' favor.
     
  7. tehG l i d e

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    That sportpick guy Danny B is obvious paying Donaghy for advertisement to his website and hot line. Those videos from the Bulls series where he called those bad plays had a bunch of viewer hits and now they're both trying to exploit it, not that I blame them.
     
  9. Octavianus

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post?id=8681

    Would Michael Jordan have done that?

    ne of the most prevalent statements we've heard in the wake of LeBron James's Game 4 stinkbomb is this:

    Michael Jordan would have never done that.

    It's been thrown around as a declarative statement of fact, that His Airness would have never scored just eight points in a Finals game.

    And it's true, Jordan has never scored just eight points in a Finals game.

    But to say that Jordan wasn't vulnerable to a stinkbomb like James' performance is classic revisionist history. As surprising as it is to some, Jordan failed. Many times. He had imperfections on the basketball court, because he is human. He lost 11 Finals games in his career, but judging from the conversation over the past few days, Jordan never let someone beat him. That, of course, is a false narrative.

    Jordan has played in 35 Finals games. Here are his averages during those games: 33.6 points, 6.0 rebounds, 6.0 assists, 2.8 turnovers, and 48.1 percent shooting. Those are, without a doubt, monster numbers. He scored more than 40 points six times. He scored fewer than 25 points four times. And amazingly, he scored fewer than 22 points zero times.

    That's right, Jordan's lowest scoring output in the Finals is 22 points. Looking strictly at the scoring column, Jordan never suffered a game quite like James' Game 4.

    But Jordan did endure some bad games -- you just have to look past the scoring column to see it. Here are Jordan's five worst shooting games of his Finals career (keep in mind LeBron shot 3-for-11 [27 percent] in Game 4).

    Michael Jordan's worst shooting games in Finals
    Date Min FG FG% 3FG 3FG% FT FT% Reb Ast TO Pts
    1996, W, G6 SEA 43 5-19 26.3 1-3 33.3 11-12 91.7 9 7 5 22
    1996, L, G4 SEA 41 6-19 31.6 0-2 0.0 11-13 84.6 3 2 4 23
    1998, L, G5 UTA 45 9-26 34.6 0-2 0.0 10-11 90.9 4 4 4 28
    1991, W, G3 LAL 52 11-28 39.3 1-1 100 6-6 100.0 9 9 3 29
    1997, L, G4 UTA 42 11-27 40.7 0-4 0.0 0-0 0.0 4 0 3 22


    What we see here is that even at Jordan's worst, he still managed to score 22 points. But look at those shot totals.

    19. 19. 26. 28. 27.

    When Jordan didn't have it going, that didn't stop him from shooting the ball. In fact, Jordan averaged 26.4 field goal attempts per game in the Finals. That's an incredible figure by an incredible player. And James? He has shot more than 26 times in a game just once in this entire playoffs. James is averaging 14 field goal attempts in this Finals. You know what Jordan's career-low field goal attempts were in a Finals game? Fourteen -- that's his lowest.

    Every time we compare this James to that Jordan, we're reminded of an essential detail:

    Jordan had the license, ability and desire to shoot 26 times per game; James does not.

    And this is the big elephant in the room. James and Jordan are different players playing in very different situations in very different eras. They are both great -- both all-time greats. But Jordan didn't have Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on his team, begging for 32 shots every game. And Jordan will probably maintain that he wouldn't want them anyway. He wanted the ball every time down the court and we have deified him for that. That's part of made him the best basketball player to ever play the game.

    There is no denying that James stunk up the joint in Game 4 when he shot just 3-for-11. But the real reason Jordan would have never scored just eight points in a Finals game is because he would have never taken just 11 shots from the floor like James did.

    Why?

    Because Jordan is not James, and James is not Jordan.
     
  10. Octavianus

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    Thought it was proven it was a myth James quit, people still believe the lie?
    Also, you implying James is quitting on the Heat? Lol
     
  11. BasketballReasons

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    Probably not related, but it really seems to me like the 2 true Superfriends are Lebron&Wade, Bosh being the 3rd wheel lmao.
     
  12. Chris Jent MVP

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    that detail being that jordan never camped out at the 3point line taking stupid contested shots.
     
  13. Octavianus

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    Finals stats

    Games 1-5:
    4th quarter free throw attempts
    Dirk Nowitzki: 24
    Entire Heat Roster: 27

    2006 role reversal.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    I watched all the games, and it seems to me that there was nothing wrong with the free throws Dirk got, and with the free throws the Heat got - if that is what you are insinuating. Dallas just played damn good defense in the 4th quarter, without fouling, and the Heat didn't manage to get to the rack many times and get fouled. Dirk, on the other hand, was clutch in the 4th quarter of every game (actually the least in the last game, because others stepped up) and did get fouled a lot.
     
  15. roksoer

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    ian manhimi plays terrible and very stupid defense
     
  16. Octavianus

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    Everyone was saying how Miami would live on the line this finals, and in 2006, the refs handed Miami the cship.
    The Ref's are doing there job, and as in 06, the refs are not handing any one any wins ot cships.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    So anyway...my prediction is that either Dallas wins it in 6 or Heat in 7.

    And since Stern wants a game 7, I am afraid the Heat will win it all.
     
  18. Outlier

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    Indeed.
     
  19. Aleron

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    I think Stern serves to make more money in the long run by denying miami the title
     
  20. Icehouse

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    100 % disagree. Dirk is getting way more touch calls. You have to literally take LeBrons head off and Wade/Bosh aren't getting the same type of touch calls. That Chandler block would have got Dirk fts.

    But that's not why Miami is losing.
     

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