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NBA Draft Lottery (UPDATE: Rockets to pick 8th overall)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 20, 2006.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    So, what you're saying is, if the guy we pick isn't good, it will present a less than optimal scenario.

    Quite an insight.
     
  2. NIKEstrad

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    What if Yao gets hurt again? What if TMac gets hurt again? What if Swift breaks out? What if Juwan Howard was framed?

    Van Gundy never said that about Spanoulis. His comments on Spanoulis were basic coach-speak: he's a good penetrator, has some talent, just not sure exactly how his game will translate, like any foreign player.

    So, Luther Head who you said is better off elsewhere, John Lucas III who was cut after all of 13 games, and Rick Brunson, who played under Van Gundy before, playing all of 23 games while shooting under 35%. You have some kind of definition of "did well".
     
  3. Outlier

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    No, I'm saying it's easier to compensate if we draft a PG than a SG because we already have a starter at PG.

    Quite an insight, indeed.
     
  4. Outlier

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    My definition of "doing well" is not having a bad impact on the game. Such as Ryan Bowen, when he's in. And sometimes Stromile Swift. Those PG's we picked up didn't disrupt the flow of the game and that's what mattered.
     
  5. NIKEstrad

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    Here's your problem. You think this roster is fixed - it's not. As Morey said, with a first round pick- particularly a lotto pick - you take the guy with the mindset of him playing for you for the rest of his career.

    We may very well take Marcus Williams, and I wouldn't be against it - I actually think he'll go in front of us. But take a look at the Celtics first round history with Morey- Marcus Banks, Kendrick Perkins, Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen, Gerald Green. Only one was a lotto pick (Banks, #13), but all are high reward type players.

    If we think Rodney Carney has the biggest upside, we'll take him. I will also say, I think the free agent point guard market (Terry, James, Cassell, Claxton, even Marcus Banks and Bobby Jackson)) is a lot deeper than the swingman market (Bonzi Wells, Tim Thomas)
     
  6. Outlier

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    I believe in the Rockets management and fully trust them -- I'm just against the people who think drafting a PG is stupid. Whoever we draft, I'm happy, I'm sure they know what they're doing.

    Of course I think Marcus could play for us his whole career... :confused:
     
  7. SamFisher

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    A starter? Yes...a mediocre starter on a deep lottery team.

    Other than that we don't have anything. If we pass up a better player because of the presence of..Rafer Alston...then I may just give up.
     
  8. NIKEstrad

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    If Marcus Williams is BPA, and we take him, great. I don't think many competent people here will shy away from taking a point guard because of Rafer Alston. I'd be curious to see if he passes Van Gundy's no bonehead rule, given his past transgressions. We have already brought him in I believe, so he's at least on the radar.

    Your argument of take a point guard (Williams) over a 2/3 like Carney because "it's easier to compensate if we draft a PG than a SG because we already have a starter at PG" just isn't good reasoning, though.
     
  9. Outlier

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    Which is why drafting Marcus is a good idea...
     
  10. DribbleHooper

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    Then get him some <a href="http://www.gnextinc.com/bbo/news/feb5notes.html">Proactiv Solution</a>. It worked for P. Diddy.

    That made me snicker a bit more than it probably should have.
     
  11. Yetti

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    Why would the Rockets select a Point guard or another short Shooting Guard?
    Considering that they willl have Alston, James and Head all lacking in height. I could see the need for a tall shooting Guard, a tall Small Forward or a powerful, tall and Bulky Power Forward. How tall is Marcus Williams? .
     
  12. Billyp

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    I would like the Rockets to take Sheldon Williams if we can make my dream offseason take place:

    1) Draft Sheldon Williams (8th) / Kevin Pittsnogle (32nd)
    2) Trade Stromile Swift for Antonio Daniels
    3) S&T with Toronto for Mike James using TE
    4) Sign V-Span and Bogans with MLE
    5) Keep Hayes somehow

    Yao / Mutumbo / Pittsnogle
    Howard / Williams / Hayes
    McGrady / Bogans / Bowen
    Daniels / V-Span / (Head)
    Alston / James / Head
     
  13. Williamson

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    Well, goin' on 4 years on this board and the old vets still haven't ripped me up like that. I might not be saying anything particularly insightful, but at least I'm apparently not saying anything too stupid. :D
     
  14. HAYJON02

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    Who knows how things will end up after private workouts, maybe a point will blow us away. But if we really need another short guard then we can grab one with our 2nd rounder. A guy like Dee Brown, Kyle Lowry, Diaz or Daniel Gibson would be fine, don't you think?

    Taller guards/sfs with a high ceiling are much rarer in the NBA. Hell, look how much value a guy like Marvin Williams had last year! I don't think we should gamble on getting Bonzi, hoping that he'll pick us over the many other teams that'll want him. Tim Thomas is staying in Phoenix, so who's left?

    Alston's not filet minon but if we get James, we'll be much better off. James can fill it up and Alston can dish it out. We just need to keep up with Dallas/Phoenix on the perimeter. Any of Carney, Gay or Roy will be perfect for what we need. We need a tall athletic defender with a reliable shot and driving ability. Sounds like a lot to ask but if we find that player it will come in the lottery, probably not in free agency.
     
  15. compucomp

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    lol, I'd like some of those discount laptops he's been hawking :D
     
  16. hooroo

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    So Coleangelo has named Aldridge, Morrison, Bargnani, M. Williams, Gay, and Thomas as the top prospects.

    That would leave Carney, Brewer, Redick, Roy, Splitter, and S. Williams.

    The best the Rocks can hope for now for a top pick is that other teams get worried about Gay's readiness for the NBA, Morrison's diabetes, and Bobcats draft a home state guy.
     
  17. Cosmonaut

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    its going to be an interesting draft thats for sure, i think the teams to look at will be toronto,atlanta,boston and minny what we draft will depend on what these 4 teams draft

    anyways my mock is as follows

    1. Toronto - Adam Morrison
    2. Chicago - lamarcus aldridge
    3. Charolette - Rudy Gay or maybe Brandon Roy
    4. Portland - Tyrus Thomas
    5. Atlanta - Marcus Williams or Andrea Bargani if there going to trade some guys
    6. Minesota - Brandon Roy - kg needs help
    7. Boston - Randy Foye or bargnani
    8 Houston - Andrea Bargnani - he probably wont fall to us but one can dream, I think he'd be a good fit, i know he'll have alot to learn with the nba game but I think he compliments what yao and tmac need, with his shooting touch he will be perfect for punnishing double teams especially if mike james comes, and if he can hit them open shots he could possibly take over juwans startin spot. I think though it will take abit of luck for him to turn out well though, but the upside of him progressing well is a definate plus for the rockets future. But if we dont choose Bargnani or he doesnt fall to us we'll choose Carney
     
  18. Luckyazn

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    So lets say

    Andrea Bargnani
    Brandon Roy
    Marcus Williams

    has been taken before us.

    How would you guys react to JJ REDDICK (dont we need shooter)


    Can't JJ REDDICK be compare to JEFF HORNACEK?
     
  19. rrj_gamz

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    I saw the lotto and man, I can't believe Portland didn't get it, but that's how it goes...

    I don't see a true #1 franchise player/star out of this years draft, but that's just me...
     
  20. DaDa

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    No franchise players, but many stars.
     

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