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NBA Draft 2011 Watch

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheTruth, Nov 10, 2010.

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  1. GATER

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    Some advice for the sake of your TV, the walls in your residence, and any friends and family that might be watching the next Lottery with you.

    Be seated and moderately intoxicated.

    There will be athletes available. Players with tremendous upside but only 1 or 2 years of college experience. Individual youngsters who create mismatches on both ends of a basketball court. Available picks who could have fit in with the Showtime Lakers of Magic & Kareem.

    But when the $Balls stop bouncing...you'll get a "safe" pick like Kyle Singler.
     
  2. Rockets_4_life

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    First of all the kid (Cousins) hasn't even played half a season, and your already calling him a headcase, really?! (and yes I know about the incident in Sac town). Yes his immature, but relax his just a rookie, don't be so quick to pass judgment on a 20 yr old.

    And second of all, we're only 13-14 games into the season, bigs take a long time to develop and have an impact on the game. Hell some of the bigs from the 2008 draft (McGee, Hibbert, Beasley) didn't start to have a impact until this season!
    ............

    Getting on topic, if the rockets due end up with a high lottery pick, I think we should go big. Unless Jones or Irving are still available.

    Kanter is the main prospect I'm looking at, if his physical's come out well, and there's no chronic knee problems. I would love for the rockets to get a chance to pick him. He has size, in combination with brute strength and a high skill level to be a star in this league. I think his a legitimate Center you can build around.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    If it's any consolation, if the Clippers end the season with the league's worst record, the Rockets get the #31 pick.

    Houston received the right to swap 2011 second round picks with the Clippers a few years back when the Rockets traded Steve Novak to L.A.

    That pick is like having an extra late first rounder, only that the Rockets don't have to commit any guaranteed salary to the rookie.
     
  4. jim1961

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    Do they have to have the very worst record for us to receive it?
     
  5. dobro1229

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    Bima- can you elaborate a little more on this pick? The terms seem a little fishy to me.
     
  6. BimaThug

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    Sure thing.

    The Rockets have the right to swap 2011 second round picks with the Clippers, meaning that Houston is guaranteed to get the higher of their own second round pick or the Clippers' second round pick.

    Pretty straightforward.

    I was just responding to someone asserting that the Clippers would have the worst record in the league.
     
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  7. A Kar

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    why on Earth do so many Rockets fans want Rubio? He's not even considered a good point guard in Europe. He's generally considered one of the worst rotation point guards in the Euroleague if not the worst.

    He's never had even one good season in the Euroelague. I'm a bit perplexed why rockets fans want him when he is not even considered a good player in Europe. Can someone explain this to me because it makes no sense.
     
  8. A Kar

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    Lull isn't a point guard. He's a shooting guard. He's played maybe 10 games in his whole career as a point guard. He is absolutely a shooting guard. Llull should have no impact on the Rockets drafting a point guard or not because he does not play the point guard position and he definitely should not be used as a point guard.
     
  9. thumbs

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    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Sergio-Llull-5023/
    According to the above, Llull is a point guard -- with promise. Do you have some links to better updates?
     
  10. roslolian

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    I'm just calling it what I see it. Cousins has weight problems and has been butting heads with everyone from the team fitness coach to the head coach. If that doesn't count as a head case problem I don't know what is. Immaturity can mean a lot of things from harmless fun to disruptive behavior. Arenas' goofball persona is a sign of immaturity, then again Sprewell choking his coach is a sign of immaturity too.

    As far as picks go I'd like us to get a perimeter player (pg, sg, sf) as opposed to a big because of several factors:

    1. Bust rate is much smaller on perimeter players
    2. NBA has been leaning towards perimeter players for years
    3. We have a gaping hole in SF

    I'd really like DM to be more conservative the higher our pick becomes. I know it seems counter-intuitive to the "must take risks" crowd, however taking hit or miss players is the reason why lottery franchises stay in the lottery year after year. Also if you look at recent history, the safer bet has always been the perimeter player versus the high potential big (i.e. Rose vs Beasley, Durant vs Oden).
     
  11. Egghead

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    #1 Duke plays #4 K-State on ESPN2 at 9. Kyrie Irving plays against Jacob Pullen, lets see how he plays.
     
  12. jim1961

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    Does anyone have a link to where it shows what picks we have in the upcoming years?
     
  13. jim1961

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    Houston Rockets


    Credits

    2011 first round draft pick from New York
    Houston has the right to swap their own 2011 1st round pick with New York's own 1st round pick so long as New York's 2011 1st round pick is not the 1st overall selection in the 2011 NBA Draft. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]

    2011 second round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
    Houston has the right to swap the L.A. Clippers' own 2011 2nd round draft pick and Houston's own 2011 2nd round draft pick [Houston - L.A. Clippers, 8/6/2008].

    2011 second round draft pick from Memphis
    Memphis' own 2011 2nd round pick to Houston (top 55 protected in the 2011 Draft). If Memphis' own 2011 2nd round pick is in the top 55 picks, then Memphis' obligations to Houston shall be extinguished. [Houston - Memphis, 12/24/2008]

    2012 first round draft pick from New York
    New York's own 2012 1st round pick to Houston (top 5 protected in 2012, top 5 protected in 2013, top 5 protected in 2014, and top 5 protected in the 2015 Draft). If Houston does not receive a 1st round pick from New York by the 2015 Draft, then New York will convey their own 2015 2nd round pick and 2016 2nd round pick to Houston. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]

    2015 second round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
    The L.A. Clippers' own 2015 2nd round pick to Houston via Toronto (if pick is 51 - 55). If the L.A. Clippers' own 2015 2nd round pick is not among the 51st through 55th picks, then the L.A. Clippers' obligations to Houston shall be extinguished. [L.A. Clippers - Toronto, 1/7/2009 and then Houston - Toronto, 7/28/2010]

    Debits

    2012 second round draft pick to Detroit
    Houston's own 2012 2nd round pick to Detroit (top 40 protected in 2012, top 35 protected in 2013, top 35 protected in 2014 and unprotected in the 2015 Draft). [Detroit - Houston, 6/25/2009]

    2013 second round draft pick to Atlanta
    Houston's own second round draft pick to Atlanta in the “First Allowable Draft” (top 40 protected until the 2016 draft at which it will be unprotected in the 2016 draft). The First Allowable draft shall be the draft that occurs one year following the year in which Houston satisfies its existing obligation to convey a future second round draft pick to the Detroit Pistons from the trade involving Chase Budinger [Atlanta - Houston, 7/14/2009]


    Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_future_draftpicks.php#ixzz16A5V1oG1

    http://www.realgm.com/src_future_draftpicks.php
     
  14. Charles Jones

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    we will draft an athletic SF and trade him for a player with "intangables" who is a no stat all-star :rolleyes:
     
  15. MourningWood

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    Perry Jones for Dogus Balbay and future considerations sounds reasonable.
     
  16. roslolian

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    Enes Canter seems to be the best big man at this point. Still a teenager but shows a lot of the "P" word. Only problem is with the his stock is rising he might be the number 1 when all is said and done.
     
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    I think he would have drafted Wall or Cousins if he would have had the chance.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    Terrence Jones is the man!
     
  19. LongTimeFan

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    I'm starting to get on his train.. impressive so far.
     
  20. A Kar

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    Llull is not a point guard. He has always been a shooting guard in every team he played on, except for at the end of the 2008-09 season.

    His team had some injuries and tried to play him as a point guard for awhile to see if he could play that position effectively. Since that he has not been used as a point guard again because he simply can't play the position with any success for anything other than short periods of time. Like a quarter or a half of a game on offense. His defense against point guards is basically non-existent. His lateral quickness is much too slow to guard the point position.

    Llull has no resemblance to a point guard whatsoever from all the games I have watched him play other than that he is a good ball handler. He is about as pure of a shooting guard as it gets from what I have seen. He is less of a point guard than Steve Francis was. He's a scorer and a shooter. He's no point guard on offense and he can't defend the point position either.

    Llull is an athletic shooting guard and he has a pretty decent jump shot and a quick release on it. He is a good ball handler and he's great at attacking the rim and in transition on the fast break he excels as he gets out fast and finishes with hard dunks. His ability to run an offense, pass, and play as a point guard is less than that of Aaron Brooks.
     

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