[NBA.com] "Rockets shop anyone but price tags are too high"

Thisx10. In fact, why even trade if there is nothing there to significantly get the team closer to the ultimate price.

Patience is a virtue and it's not like the team is a total trash despite its current standing.

 

I disagree on Luis. If you look at his game, it's not very dependent on athleticism. It's hustle, footwork, and a jump shot. All of which are the last things to go. It would be different if he relied on speed and hops which start to decline in your 30's.

Not that scola is anywhere near, but look at Hakeem working out with Dwight Howard. Dream still has his footwork and can still shoot. Even pushing 50. I think scola will still give you at least 15-16ppg for the next 6 years. Definitely through the life of his contract. Same goes for chuck Hayes for that matter. He will still be chuck cuz he doesn't have much room to decline in terms of athleticism.

 

Bingo.

Brooks, for certain, is seeing lowballs. Boston wants Shane for salary filler and a pick in the 30s. Knicks want Jeffries...if we buy him out on Friday. GSW want Yao....once he's a free agent.

Not his fault, Morey wanted to wheel and deal 8 months ago....but the value of our assets has hit junk status.

 

If they are too high they are too high. Too bad we have to take his word for it. We dont know what too high means. So? Nothing happens? Same ole same ole. Draft doesnt look good either unless he has some plan for that which also seems to be too high for him to move on at times. Oh well.

 

iow, he held on to the assets too long. and now as fans, we're in for yet another mediocre at best season if there is a season next year. it's really sad that it's gotten to the point where an nba lockout wouldn't really bother me. it's not like we're missing the rockets 3rd championship run or anything else. i can do without watching losses to the sixers and timberwolves.

 

Exactly. Held on too long again and now worthless again.

 

Wow, do you guys really think the NBA superstar trade market is like the NYSE? That Morey can just trade in his chips whenever he feels like!?

Seems to fly in the face of common sense to me.

 

you're right. i didn't realize that morey couldn't force teams to make trades with him. but if this was his plan, he's failed. people fail at their plans everyday and most times it's not all because of their actions. doesn't change the fact they failed and need to be held accountable (in this case, maybe we quit acting like he's some sort of front office god).

 

wow, you are a bit hypocritical don't you think? I agree with a lot of what you post, but your comments are a bit rude and hypocritical. You mock us for comparing this to a stock market (which we have not). At the same time, you want Morey to wait and trade our guys when their value goes up.

In essence, like the stock market that you mock us about.

 

Damn Morey, put down the freaking pork chop...we dont' need you having a heart attack before you're fifty.

 

I don't believe Morey is a front office god. I believe he is one of the most methodical, hard working, logical GM in the NBA. But he's obviously not god because he has to follow the rules set by the NBA market.

I agree that Morey, barring a last second miracle, has largely been mediocre in terms of results. But I believe in his methodology. Because I believe it's the correct way. But given that the GM has basically no control over most of the market, even the best way may only get results some of the time. Still, I believe Morey give us the best chance to contend. But even "best" usually isn't enough given that we have no superstar on the team, and we don't reside in a sexy market.

Your original post stated that you believe Morey doesn't understand the concept of selling high, because he kept the players when their value was at its highest(ignoring for the second that he did sell Landry at absolute peak value and bought Martin at absolutely his lowest value). And I simply wish to correct this assertion. Morey WANTED to sell his stock last season. There's a reason why he got Martin, almost traded for Amare, and desperatedly tried to trade for Bosh. The fact that no one was selling prevented the sell-high approach.

This is not GM-dependent. The smartest GM in the world, short of being able to play jedi mind tricks, can't force opposing GMs to say yes to trade, and player/agents to agree to extensions for a team with no star power.

If I came across as a smart aleck, I apologize. But generally, I've found that writing huge posts like these which explains things in detail tend not to get read. Otherwise, I would actually expand on my thoughts rather than just make one line insults.

 

A few questions for fans who are extremely critical of the organization.

With your criticism, do you factor in losing two franchise players to injury?

If so, how much do you think it's contributed to the current state of the team?

How long do you think a small market/non-destination team should be back in contention after losing both franchise players to injury?

Do you think the Rockets should have blown up the team sooner?

If so, how much sooner? And please provide a link to the past post where you suggested this.

 

How can you possibly hate on Scola? Forget the fact that he has one of the top 5 most desirable contracts in the league. You're not going to get that kind of production for that price anywhere else, unless its a player on a rookie scale. Bill Simmons actually has Scola's contract listed as the 3rd best in the league, and you're saying he "needs to go?" Gtfo.

 

There is if it's obviously too high.

That's what happens when you wait too long to sell. Now we have a guy that had high trade value who is now playing like crap and obviously has an attitude problem (Brooks) who will only fetch lowball offers from most teams. Morey overplayed his hand on that one.