[nba.com postgame interview] Yao himself admits he needs more touches

and the problem isn't just catching lobs, but also that a lob pass takes more time to travel, allowing the help defender to come over and set himself right smack in front of yao as yao is catchign the ball, usually that ends up being a charge or travel on Yao.

 

i think that's one thing JVG could be wrong about, there isn't enough data to say with certainty that he is or isnt a good shooter from the area. Keep in mind JVG talks based on percentages a lot. It's like that thing about technical free throws, he'd call Nash a below avg FT shooter at technicals if he was 2 of 4 for the season just because thecnically that is below average.

So Yao's 15 footers, back when JVG was here, were often bad shots, trying to beat the shot clock or shot after yao hesitated. So that leads to him shooting a bad % and that's what JVG refers to. whe Yao is set and decisive on those shots he makes a higher percentage.

 

I don't understand why Yao doesn't use his off arm to seal his man off better. He sort of just stands straight up and holds one hand up while letting guys take most of his position away.

 

Not that easy. The lakers are tricky when they play Yao. I could see them alowing houston to make the entry pass, then have Gasol or bynum (whover isnt guarding Yao) drop down on him. Yao has trouble passing the ball tot he open man when he's trapped like that, especially with two VERY long players like Gasol and Odom. If they do that it takes a lot of time off the clock, leaving the rockets to jack up bad shots. And they also have Mbenga, that's 5 fouls to waste, and he can still block shots and rebound decently on D, we have nothing like that with Deke out. We only have Hayes to use up fouls and gets some rebounds, but he's not going to rebound that well against players that much taller than him and he's definitely not a shot blocker.

 

They call a foul on that 7 out of 10 times. Yao's so tall that it looks like a hook even against Shaq, Oden.. If Yao played against Zeke (Cavs) he has the best chance of doing that move without getting the foul. Most Yao's fouls are ridiculous because it looks like something else simply because of his prominent size.

 

I skimmed this thread and I was expecting even though we won there would be a lot of complaining about Yao not getting more touches. I didn't expect it from Yao though.

Of course its great if Yao can get a ton of touches and a ton of points but Adelman is right that we can't force it and the bottom line is winning the game. Portland has played great defense on Yao and that is to be expected that since they got bloodied by Yao in game one they would make that adjustment. A lot of y'all are going on about how we won convincingly in game one with Yao getting a lot of touches so he should be getting a lot now. That isn't how a series works and if McMillan is so dumb to stick to the same strategy he wouldn't deserve to be an NBA coach.

Adelman has made his adjustments to exploit Portland seeking to shut down Yao and considering we are up 2-1 with a very close loss I would say he is doing a good job. He is also saying to keep on looking for Yao but not force it. We saw Yao get the ball a few times in the second half and put up terrible shots including a block and turnover.

I've got confidence and Adelman and this team and I think Yao will get more touches as Portland has to start reacting to the other players.

 

The next game will be the biggest game of this series. If the rockets win, they will take this series. Otherwise, another 1st round loss.

The key for next game will be getting the ball to Yao. If Yao shoots less than 10 times, we would lose. Otherwise, we would win.

Simple and Plain!

 

Not exactly. We've came very close to winning with Yao taking only 6 shots and we won with Yao getting few shots. If you think back to some of the Utah series a few years ago Yao got a bunch of shots and we still lost.

 

I think people put too much stock in the "Yao gets 20+ points = Rockets win". Its actually when the Rockets offense runs smooth enough to get Yao 20 points, they usually win.(think only once or twice did they lose when Yao scored 20+ this year)


If that were the case, they could simply force feed Yao. Who cares about turnovers. Because once Yao gets 20 points the game is over. DO not play the 3rd or 4th quarters, go straight to post game presser because the Rockets won.


Yao getting 20 points does not equal win. Rockets offense being efficient enough = Rockets win.

 

Time will tell! And, it is not far. Tomorrow night, we will know it.

 

Exactly and very well put.

 

A couple of reasons why Yao doesn't get more touches
1. Can't hold post position
2. Can't catch lobs at the rim (Chandler, Dampier, scrub centers can do this)
3. Can't run PnR for dunk because he doesn't cut to bucket or catch the ball... Bad hands (Did you see Oden get 2 straight dunks on simple PnR)
4. Portland is doubling with the 2 largest players... We would be crazy to force the rock to Yao.
5. Our PF's were hitting their shots
6. Doesn't move to open spot after setting picks, stands right where he set the pick. Has the ability to move closer for better open shots
7. Can't move his feet to get to passes

 

I don't have a axe to grind with Yao. My axe or hatchet is with posters that after every game come in and b**** about yao not getting touches or the refs. That's my axe. From francis to moochie, to rafer to brooks, no one can get yao the ball. From rudy to jvg to adelman, no coach can get yao the ball. Is that coincidence? Adelman said after the game that he's not worried about touches or shots. What does that tell you? When the play la and they play behind yao, he'll get touches and whatever else. Even with touches or shots, they're not beatin La anyway, but just like always there will be guy coming on here and creating threads about brooks,lowry, artest, scola, kareem, dirk minnifield, wiston garland and anyone else that has ever played for the rox. Its their fault the rockets lost. Its a team game and when ur best player can't isn't swarmed and taken out the game points wise, other players have to step up. How quickly we forget the playoff game when they 4 players scored and the rockets lost. Now that they have a couple of guys that can score, people are b****ing and whining. Its talk like this is the reason there is division on this board. Just be happy the team won without huge point production from yao. He impacted the game by attention and that's what happens sometimes. If people don't like it, leave, tear your ass, log the eff off and go follow another team.

 

Isn't this strange when there's this thread. . . from Yahoo article that said he was perfectly fine with his role in the playoffs. . .someone doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=167314

 

what's up with this thread about more touches, than another about hes fine with no touches -_-

 

Its all about how the interview answers are interpreted and what kind of spin or story the article is trying to create.

 

The posters who saw Yao open several times during the game are spot on. The threads on Yao should really start with a caveat that he is not fairly officiated and that the NBA rulebook is not applied correctly when officiating him.

Having laid down the premise it is amazing for posters to think Yao does not know how to hold position. He is often being held and bear hugged by players close to 300 pounds just about everwhere he goes at the offensive side of the court. Add the double team guy who weighs several hundred pounds more and you tell me if anyone, anyone can hold any position for long.

Many people say that Shaq was similarly officiated. I beg to strongly disagree. Shaq was guarded almost similarly as Yao but he was/is allowed to hit back. For many years, especially in his younger days, Shaq was allowed by the officials to lower his shoulders and bull his way against opponents without being called for offensive fouls. Yao will never be allowed to hit back, even if he wanted to, and he was called for countless offensive fouls even while he was just moving. A case in point was the last game where Roy fell after he was clinging to Yao and guess who was called for the foul. Oden whirled his arm, which was bear hugging Yao all along, and Yao was called for a foul.

Yao does need to do more, but criticism of his play should always be premised by the sort of officiating that he is subjected to. Many will not agree to this long time assertion, but racism is what the officiating on Yao is about. One does not need to search for validation of this observation than the pundits on ESPN and TNT. The way they comment on Yao is obviously prejudiced. People might disagree with that but these are the very people who have never experienced rampant racism in America, or pretend to be blind to it, apathetic or just plain ignorant. This also goes for the ethnicity of those who claim to have been victims of racism, and yet perpetuate such racism themselves on people with different ethnicity.

The NBA is what it is. It is rigged and prejudiced. However, the good news is we can still enjoy many games that are fairly officiate, if Yao is not playing.

 

It's also Yao's fault, he's got a mouth, he needs to speak up and address this or it'll never be fair; unfortunately because of his character and culture he probably wont dare say anything.

If he was to play the race card that would shake the nba world and bring focus on this point and change the way refs officate.

And I don't believe the league is rigged if it was Yao would be priority number one. It just might be racism or prejudice of him being the size that he is; and the only solution is to speak up.

 

One problem I see with Yao is that he WASN'T being respect as a franchise player even though everyone say it in public... Adelman wasn't respecting him that way and some Rox players weren't respecting him that way...

Can you imagine what happen when Kobe or Lebron wants the ball and their teammates just completely ignore them? You really think those players would still be on the team? You think Kobe won't kick their butts in the locker room?...