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[nba.com] NBA to change All-Star ballot, eliminating center

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Glenyo, Oct 23, 2012.

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  1. Glenyo

    Glenyo Member

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    By David Aldridge, TNT Analyst
    Posted Oct 23, 2012 10:23 PM
    The NBA is finally doing something about the Duncan Dilemma.
    The league will announce Wednesday a change to its All-Star ballot that will, for the first time, allow fans to vote for three undefined "frontcourt" players instead of having to vote for two power forwards and a center. With more and more teams playing smaller than in the past, the definition of "center" was becoming increasingly difficult -- not to mention finding enough quality big men for whom to vote.
    For years, for example, the Spurs have listed Tim Duncan as a power forward, even though everyone on earth knew he was their starting center. And so when it came to All-Star balloting, Duncan would take up a forward spot in a very crowded field of Western Conference stars instead of his logical spot in the middle. This was good for Duncan, who surely would have made his 13 All-Star teams anyway, but it often cost another forward a shot.
    The league decided to make the change after the NBA's Competition Committee agreed to the move at its meeting last month, VP of Basketball Operations Stu Jackson said Tuesday evening.
    "It makes sense," Jackson said. "It made sense to our Competition Committee. Having a center is the only specific position that was singled out on the ballot. It just seemed a little outdated and didn't represent the way our game has evolved. By the same token, it also affords the same opportunity, if you have two good centers in a given year, pick 'em both. They both can be selected. Which is impossible right now."
    That would be good news for players like Boston's Kevin Garnett and Miami's Chris Bosh, nominal forwards who are now playing center for their respective teams. Under the old rules, Garnett and Bosh would have been in the center category with the likes of Philadelphia's Andrew Bynum, Atlanta's Al Horford and Indiana's Roy Hibbert. Now, any of them can be selected as a "frontcourt" player.
    "It was something that we originally thought made some sense, but we didn't want to make a decision in a vacuum, of course," Jackson said. "We ran it by the Competition Committee and they thought the idea made some sense ... it gives the fans some flexibility while keeping competitive balance."
    The league will debut the 2013 All-Star ballot on Nov. 13. Players are selected for the ballot by a committee of national media who cover the NBA on a regular basis. The 2013 All-Star Game will be Feb. 17 at the Toyota Center in Houston.

    http://www.nba.com/2012/news/10/23/all-star-centers-ballot/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt6a

    Your Thoughts on this?
     
    #1 Glenyo, Oct 23, 2012
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    What if all 3's get in?
     
    #2 Mr. Clutch, Oct 23, 2012
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  3. jayhow92

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    All-star game is a joke anyways.
     
    #3 jayhow92, Oct 23, 2012
  4. yo

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    Maybe they should've did 4/5's together and 3's separately.
     
    #4 yo, Oct 23, 2012
  5. Zboy

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    NBA confirms the sad state of Center position in today's NBA.

    Back in 90s you would be competing with the following for NBA All star and All-NBA Teams spot/awards:

    Hakeem
    Shaq
    Ewing
    Robinson
    Parish
    Daugherty
    Smits
    Mourning
    Mutombo

    Today Dwight Howard has to compete with
    No one. Were you seriously expecting a legitimate candidate?
    Dwight himself would be somewhere on the bottom of that list.
     
    #5 Zboy, Oct 23, 2012
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  6. felixng2012

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    Lol it is quite sad.
     
    #6 felixng2012, Oct 23, 2012
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    dont say that. some ppl get an erection from it
     
    #7 trowa, Oct 23, 2012
  8. blunto

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    I would rather have:
    • 2 slots for Bigs/Post Players
    • 2 slots for Wings
    • 1 slot for PG
     
    #8 blunto, Oct 23, 2012
  9. JoeBarelyCares

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    More proof that the Rockets are ahead of the curve with 7 PFs and only one center. A true center is only good for rim protection and possibly rebounding in today's NBA.
     
    #9 JoeBarelyCares, Oct 23, 2012
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    Asik is a shoe in!!!!!
     
    #10 juanm34, Oct 23, 2012
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    D12 would have been top 5 for sure. Maybe even better then Robinson.
     
    #11 713, Oct 23, 2012
  12. dachuda86

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    Asia vote for Asik was too much of a threat...
     
    #12 dachuda86, Oct 23, 2012
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    He was before this rule.

    More evidence of David Stern taking huge dumps on the Rockets organization.
     
    #13 Mr. Clutch, Oct 23, 2012
  14. Red.Glare

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    I agree with you totally...great idea. The problem is, a large number of those voting, would not have any concept of what a wing or post player actually is. But then again that makes no difference, its mostly a name recognition, popularity contest anyway.
     
    #14 Red.Glare, Oct 23, 2012
  15. J-Red

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    This is a joke, right? Over Robinson? NO WAY! D-ROB could shoot, and do everything else D12 does except have his vertical. He was also the leader of his team, unlike D12 who gets whiny when things don't go his way. I'd put him 7th on that list

    Hakeem
    Shaq
    Ewing
    Robinson
    Mourning
    Then Dwight

    Parrish was a part of a great system in Boston and Smits was just a very tall small forward who shot the 3-ball.

    If Dwight's ahead of Robinson then John Salley, Chris Dudley, and Will Purdue are top 10 Centers also LOL

    You're comparing apples and oranges. The Golden Age of Centers compared to a Big Man Drought. After Yao and Shaq retired, D12 has no real competition.
     
    #15 J-Red, Oct 23, 2012
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    Good, but it doesn't go far enough. Why even have backcourt / frontcourt distinction? There are a lot of wing players that can play both in the backcourt or frontcourt. Just vote in 5 players, irrespective of position.
     
    #16 durvasa, Oct 23, 2012
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Where would LeBron go?
     
    #17 Mr. Clutch, Oct 23, 2012
  18. J-Red

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    The East Ballot will just have 4 spots for voting, 2 front-court and 2 back-court. Lebron's automatically on the team LOL
     
    #18 J-Red, Oct 23, 2012
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    Clearly this was referred to behind the scenes as the 'Asik rule'
     
    #19 LCII, Oct 24, 2012
  20. apollo33

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    this actually makes the most sense
     
    #20 apollo33, Oct 24, 2012
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