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[nba.com]Adelman lacks vote of confidence from Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hayesfan, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. Dave_78

    Dave_78 Member

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    I'm indifferent on what happens to Adelman. On one hand, I see a guy who players like to play for and who has a great resume. On the other hand, I see a guy who appears to still get by with many fans based on what he did 10 and 20 years ago. I don’t think he is that same coach and he certainly is not currently blessed with the talent he had in Portland and Sacramento so those results mean nothing. Also, it seemed to me like he didn’t even care early in the season and coincidentally the players often played like they didn’t care. How many times has this team appeared apathetic in the last 7-8 years up until this season? Never.

    I look at the talent on this team and to me anything under .500 is underachieving so excuse me for not throwing the guy a parade when we are three games over.

    I’d be ok if they brought him back next year but I’d be happier if they brought in some new blood.
     
  2. Shaud

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    The poster I keep going back and forth with in this thread Roslolian says Adelman sucks balls as a coach this year.

    There is a difference between pointing at his flaws and saying he flat out sucks as a coach.
     
  3. Don FakeFan

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    wow. lashing out on your GM like this? not a good idea but he is Adelman, who has every right and gut to do anything.
     
  4. OHMSS

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    It's Phil Jackson's last year. Adelman can take the Lakers job. There is no reason for him to stay with a mediocre team like the Rockets.
     
  5. heypartner

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    I requoted the RA quote that you are referring to. My thought was RA might have been discussing his entire coaching career, not just the Rockets. Does he actually refer to Rockets mgmt. Not the part I bolded.
     
  6. DreamShook

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    Unless he wants to stay, which he has expressed candidly in the article.

    I was lead to believe he wanted to go because we aren't contending any time soon; I'm glad he wants to stay. I may not agree with some of Adelman's in game decisions/rotations, but you're not going to get a better coach than Adelman right now.

    Extend him Les.
     
  7. DreamShook

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    I agree with this! When I see how wide open the west has been in years, I truly believe we should be a 5/6 seed easily if we played with as much heart in the beginning of the season as we are now. Some of that falls on Adelman.
     
  8. TheFreak

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    Identity for which team? The team that included Yao for 24 minutes by mandate from management, or the team that didn't include Yao? Adelman actually had to coach both of those teams at the same time prior to Yao's injury.

    It's on him for trade rumors affecting focus? Which players do you think are going to be affected more by things like that, the guys on normal teams that have some semblance of stability, or guys on a team that has turned over almost its entire roster in just a few years and is constantly putting it out there that basically EVERYONE is available at all times? This is somehow supposed to be the coach's fault?
     
  9. Don FakeFan

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    If Rockets roster are that good, why there is no all star on the team? no ticket selling? no TV broadcasting? no news on whatsoever about Rockets?

    Admit it, this current Rockets team is a below average, dead boring team.
     
  10. dobro1229

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    The bad start to the season has been mostly revolved around team defense, and the coach has to be held accountable for that notion. However I still believe it shouldn't cost Adelman his job, but he should just be held accountable.

    I think the Defense has been lacking at the beginning of the season and that is mainly what falls on Adelman more than just playing with heart. I understand that his system is difficult to learn on offense and there is only so much time in training camp, but man the Rocket's team defense has been terrible the past two seasons.

    The same players making the same mistakes time after time, and you can watch Scola on defense now and he still has never been corrected for the countless bad habits he has on defense. Never is he ever corrected.

    You can call it hustle, you can say the players are not naturally defensive minded players, you can blame it on the lack of a shot blocker, but at the end of the day you still have to coach defensive schemes and commit your players to it at the beginning of the season... not at the end when the playoffs are at far reach. Heck, they didn't even truly figure out defensive rotations correctly till about the 7th week of the season when we saw it improve drastically.

    Other than defense I really do think he's a brilliant offensive coach who handles big egos very well, and he still finds a way to consistently have a winning record. Maybe thats why he was here to begin with, just to kind of get out of the way and manage the big egos of the likes of TMac, Artest, etc...
     
  11. J.R.

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    Maybe b****ing is the wrong word.:p But clearly disappointed by those 2 trades. As if we just traded away a superstar or something. Clearly he "loved" those guys and seemed disappointed that they werent his anymore.

    Rick Adelman after Brooks left the court situation:
    Whoops!:eek:;) You don't think Rick is or was mad?

     
  12. dobro1229

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    ESPN/ABC/DISNEY does not broadcast sports news from any Houston sports team, not just the Rockets. I never understood why ESPN purposfully left out Houston, maybe Robert Inger or Steve Jobs got a girl pregnant in Houston and has bad memories... who knows.

    Turner network has broadcasted the Rockets in the past, but Turner (TNT) only broacasts teams with superstars. If Yao was with the team they would get alot more attention.

    The Rockets have all-stars with no star quality. Also the players they have now have never been on the big stage in the playoffs, and that is where the "big names" are really made. However the Rockets do have a large draw outside of the Houston area surprisingly with a strong identity among basketball followers.

    Of all the non-contending teams, the Rockets have one of the better followings with a solid fan base. You wont find a Golden State Warrior fan in Tennesee, but you can find Rockets fans at almost every road game sprinkled in the crowd consistently. How many other teams have as good of a fansite as Clutchfans??... not many.
     
  13. biggiebody

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    I see that people keeps saying that the rockets are overachieving, which I disagree. I say they are right where they are supposed to be, a middle of the road team, a team around .500. I predicted that they would be around .500 by the end of the season. We have at least 2 borderline all stars before the season or 3 if you count brooks, and now a pg who is coming into his own. If we were under .500 that would be underachieving, overachieving for this team would be like top 5 seed imo.
    The early struggles I partly blame adelman because of his inconsistent rotation and bad decision making at the end of games (ex: brad miller against phoenix) but not all on him because the players are at fault somewhat too.

    Well with that said, I'm mainly indifferent about whether adelman leaves or not, I agree he is a good coach but we are not really going anywhere. Also even though he says he would like to stay, that could just be coach talk, but who knows.
     
  14. lalala902102001

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    Can you find a better coach than RA at this point? No.

    Is RA the best coach for this team at this point? No.

    The Rockets need to rebuild and RA is too good to preside over a rebuilding project.
     
  15. BleedRocketsRed

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    More than half of his games without Yao/TMac and a winning % of 58.

    What team success are you expecting?
     
  16. Raven

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    Rick has paid his dues, let him go to a team with a healthy star.
     
  17. Hakeemtheking

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    I beg to differ with you. Aldeman played Brooks too much, if anything. He gave Brooks plenty of chances to improve his play, which hurt the team in many games because of the latter sub-par performances.
     
  18. TheFreak

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    Battier wasn't traded to open up time for Budinger, etc., he was traded b/c Shane was in the last year of his contract and they needed to get something for him. Same with Brooks. That's why those are 'non-basketball moves'. Adelman was already playing Budinger more than anyone on this site wanted him to prior to that trade. According to Less, RA told Morey last year WHATEVER YOU DO, NEVER TRADE BUDINGER. The suggestion that the team is only excelling b/c of Morey forcibly ending Rick's Battier fixation is moronic on a number of levels. This new popular Adelman slam is probably being propogated by some of the same geniuses who were on Rick for playing Bud ahead of T-Will for so long. I'm sure some of them were also on Rick for the team's bad defense, but are now bashing him for playing one of his best defensive players so much that Morey had to trade him to put a stop to it, in their minds. I'd like to see some quotes from anyone who was lobbying for Bud to get more time on the court prior to the Shane trade.
     
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  19. apollo33

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    I think I agree with this. Coaches on contenders have so much more pressure and media scrutiny on them. If the team goes on a small losing streak, people will scream for them to get replaced. They also play a longer season and it is a grind during the playoffs.

    Maybe at his age RA just wants to play a mentor role for the younger guys and pass down the wisdom of his system without the constant media attention and the fatigue and pressure of the playoff grind.
     
  20. apollo33

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    Yao and China bro, Yao and China. This probably effectively doubled Rockets fanbase. That plus the whole bandwagon Mr. Tracy Mac brought from Orlando
     

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