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[nba.com]A Dream Tutor For Dwight In Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jul 15, 2013.

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  1. Tfor3

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    GOATS all over that court:eek:

     
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    I feel like the sessions Dwight had with Hakeem were too short, and that having Hakeem and McHale as full-time mentors will help Dwight's development. It took years of tutelage under Kareem before Bynum became adept with some post moves.
     
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    I wen with Sheng Long cause it reminded me of Mortal Kombat ! ...(test your might)
     
  4. RV6

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    Karl Malone graceful? He was all brute force with a J. AND he was a bull from head to toe. My post was condemning muscular imbalance, not muscularity alone.

    The body moves as a whole, not in parts. All the footwork in the world wont free his hips if he has an imbalance with his upper body. Why do you think they made him wear a a special compression shirt in LA to help keep his shoulders back? They suspected that was the cause of his back problems.
     
  5. bmd

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    What you are saying is just a bunch of nonsense. Dwight Howard's physique has nothing to do with him not moving like Hakeem Olajuwon.

    I mean, your theory is that the reason he isn't graceful like Hakeem Olajuwon is because he has big shoulder muscles.

    That's ridiculous.
     
  6. Nubmonger

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    Part of the reason Shaq was so dominant was that he was so quick on his feet, not just that he was so huge.

    Hopefully Howard will improve with coaching from such greats, but in reality it's hard to know if he would be better off just focusing on what he does well rather than trying to imitate what these guys have managed to do. Part of what makes the greats great is that they can do things that no other players can do, including other great players. This is part of the reason why many great players also make poor coaches - their expectations are unrealistic for anyone except themselves; their circumstances, development, playing style, and personality were so unique yet garnered them so much success that they can't fathom of any other way to play.

    That being said, the best sign is probably that Howard is back to full strength and focused on training for the next season. That should be a really good sign, given what happened last year and how "poorly" he performed with the Lakers. Howard had a ton of learning to do in transitioning from the college game to the professional game, and he managed to make that leap to become one of the dominant defensive centers to ever play. Maybe now that he has two greats tutoring him and some time to really knuckle down, he'll make that transition from good to dominant on the offensive end as well.
     
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    Dwight = Anakin
    Hakeem = Obi-Wan
    McHale = Qui-Gon
    Morey = Yoda

    Correct?
     
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    Well its been reported that he is now a member of the Houston Rockets staff, but last update from Morey was that no title has been confirmed, or defined role.

    So since pretty much everyone in the org basketball related gets a ring, I would assume Hakeem would at least get another ring.... not sure about credit as an actual coach, but more along the lines of player development personnel Im assuming.

    Still, he would definitely deserve a ring for his contribution.
     
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    Damn. McHale is the correct hiring. He is working hard like his Celtics days.
     
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    Man that thought of Hakeem getting another ring brings back those championship memories and tears to my eyes.
     
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    ugh. my sourpuss friend wants to believe that "Dwight looks bored"

    he hated the signing from the get-go and won't shut up about it.
     
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    That would imply mchale mentored Hakeem...


    Morey would be qui-gon w**** hired

    Mchale-obi who originally taught

    KG -Anakin/vader

    So...

    Dwight-Luke

    Must mentor with

    Hakeem-yoda

    To stop the

    Nets-empire...


    Would have worked better if mchale had worked with Lebron :/
     
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    Lin = JarJar?

     
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    I don't think you want to go there. I can definitely back up everything i said. It's science, not nonsense. Look up the posterior oblique subsystem, if you think I'm lying.


    Here is the quote about his compression shirt:


    http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles...ht-howards-game-shirt-is-function-not-fashion


    And again, i'm not saying big muscles are the issue, you can maintain flexibility and mobility with larger muscles. I'm referring to muscular imbalances. Clearly, Dwight has some, if his posture is an issue. You shouldn't have posture issues, if you have balanced muscles.
     
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    Morey, Yoda? No, just no. Dude's a GM not a trainer or a player developer.
     
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    Even if what you are saying is true in Dwight's case, it still has nothing to do with footwork and finesse.

    I have had back trouble before related to posture. It didnt turn me into a bull in a china shop. I had finesse and moved fluidly... it just hurt because of the back trouble. Any kind of movements hurt.

    What you are talking about has no relationship with how fluid and finesse or brash and powerful a player plays the game.
     
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    In other words, muscular imbalances could have contributed to his back trouble. But that has nothing to do with how he grew up playing the game.

    Some people just don't have the same coordination and knack for being a fluid 7 foot basketball player.

    It has nothing to do with muscular imbalances.
     
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    Of course it does. The body doesn't move in pieces or sections. Even when you curl, your body doesn't just isolate the biceps and freeze everything else. It's constantly adjusting from head to toe depending on your movement. A shoulder issue can affect the hip, and if the hip is affected, then it'll also effect the knee, ankle, and foot because it's all connected. Or a knee issue can travel up to the hip, then spine, neck. Lots of variations to it. It could be minor changes or significant ones. It all depends on how big the issue, where, how long it's been going on, etc.

    What do you think controls fluidity and finesse? Muscles, the brain, nervous system, etc.... if you have muscular imbalances and/or neurological inhibition of muscles, then your movement (AKA fluidity/finesse) will be affected, period. Perhaps your problem was in it's initial stages or minor enough, so it didn't significantly affect your movement.

    Dream is old school. No sitting watching TV 8 hrs a day or playing videos games. No computer work. (ref : http://www.nationalscholastic.org/trackmedic/article/736) Add that to his soccer training as a young'n and it's a recipe for a well balanced human machine. His muscles got used to firing properly early and often and that was the foundation that allowed him to develop his post game. Sure, there are structural/genetic differences from person to person, so not everyone can be Dream (which i did mention earlier), but that doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. Howard clearly has that room.

    No offense, but it only sounds ridiculous because you're not familiar with it.
     
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    Yep. Tight back affects hamstrings, affects hips, affects the tighteness of the calves, which was the cause for pain in my right foot. Everything is interlocked.
     
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