NBA Champion Tom Thibodeau on Charles Edward Hayes Jr.

great post

 

UPGRADE THIS MAN! HE SHOULD BE A ROOKIE NO LONGER!

 

Indeed. He cuts fairly well and is a good passer. He may be extremely limited on offense, but at least he's AWARE of this fact (*stares at Ben Wallace*).

 

we need to get rid of Steve Novak...he is a failed project...I'd rather have 1 SF and 5 PFs than Steve Novak as our 2nd SF.

 

Let's get Milwaukee to give a 2nd-rounder for him.

 

Hayes is a great player.

I think he can play the starting position on some nights, but I like what Scola and Landry have to offer. Even if Landry leaves, we still have Scola starting, and Chuck is a great player who basically can split the minutes with Scola. We also have Dorsey, who can hopefully turn out to be a good player.

Chuck's offense isn't as terrible as y'all are saying it is. I remember his first season, he missed a ton of layups, but he improved that a lot.

His free throw shooting in itself is entertaining.

His defense is definitely good, and it's cool to hear Thibodeau out of no where praising Hayes.

Keeping Hayes in the Rockets rotation will be a good decision.

I feel that we will be pretty good at the power forward and center positions, as long as people are healthy, and even if Landry leaves (I hope not, because he definitely makes an impact on the game)

We should try to make an upgrade at the point guard position and add another scorer. It'd be great if we could get a better 3rd best player on our team behind Tmac and Yao. Or maybe we can move Tmac for some good players in return.

 

chuck is awesome........ didnt he spark the 22 win streak by screaming Philidephia!!!! such passion! can get rid of him

 

Chuck is a situational player, same as Novak, they are both very good at one side of the ball and very bad at the other side.....

But in certain situations they both can be productive.

DD

 

If this is what JVG said, then I'd have to disagree. Just because Novak doesn't shoot does not mean he doesn't contribute on offense. The fact that defense must always devote a player to guard him by the 3 point line automatically makes other players, especially Yao and T-Mac, more productive.

The thing I'm most pissed about watching Hayes is how much he HINDERS the offense of other players, especially Yao. Hayes' defender pretty much does what he wishes in terms of playing help defense.

 

Novak is not good at either side. He is good only if his defender leaves him wide often. He can't create separation on his own to save his life.

 

i could have sworn i saw one game where novak novak d'ed up and boarded up. i may have been hallucinating....

 

Thanks for your opinion Tom. Howver, the Rockets coaches don't seem to agree. Last year, they felt Hayes was so good that two rookies put him at the end of the bench.

Enough said.........

 

LOL....none of the chuck haters dare to come out in this thread!

 

guess they've been shifting their target to attack novak instead

 

Chuck may be pretty bad on offense, but it doesn't touch how bad Novak is on D.

I'm quite serious when I say that I can't recall a worse defensive player in the NBA. Ever.

I'm a Marquette alum. I love the guy. But he can't guard a newborn child. At least Chuck can pass and cut and rebound on offense.

 

Chuck can pass because he HAS to pass, he can't shoot.....

LOL....I love Chuck but he is on the Ryan Bowen skill level on offense.

Novak is not as bad as people are saying....he is very productive on offense, players can not leave to double Yao or Tmac...if they do....straight butter.

Now on defense, uh, Novak is ...below average.



Tom may get a head coaching gig now.....maybe we can trade Chuck and his 2 year contract to him...



DD

 

everyone knows about chuck's EXCEPTIONAL defense. that alone makes him a good player in the nba. the guy is not a total zero on offense. he makes as many layups as he misses, and grabs offensive rebs. his bball iq is very high. plus, he has a cheap contract.

what is there to not like chuck hayes?

he may not start or play 35 minutes a game. but he's a valuable asset to the team. you only give it away for a piece that is at least as good or in a package for a more valuable asset.

 

DD,
Please don't compare Chuck to Novak. Novak is not half the player Chuck is. What has Novak contributed to this team?

As far as i'm concerned, he was lucky we even brought him back.

Novak= 1 dimensional shooter who cannot even get his own shot and is lucky he's even on this team
Chuck = all around solid role player

 

Chuck is more valuable than Novak, as he is a great defender and does cut well on offense.

But they are both comparible in that neither is a quality NBA player....they are both situational at best and if you are playing either significant minutes you are really not a contender.

DD