hooroo - what in my post lead to your attack on me? When did i once say i know more than scouts? One of the things i said was don't let the stats fool you. Yet that's what people are bringing up. Guys, when my friends told me that scouts were watching the Cairns game i immediately knew Jawai was the reason. He does look impressive to NBL competition. Watching nbl games compared to nba games regularly shows the huge disparity between talent. One thing i also pointed out was the run and pull up pop style of basketball - equating to a lot of rebounds to be had. All i stress is don't let stats fool you. And like i said in the previous post he may well be worth the shot. My personal opinion is i don't think he is as good as many are hoping him to be. You opinion is he will. Is there really need to vindicate me for this?
It's not like anyone is getting 15 rebounds per game in the NBL... There are only 2 guys in that league who got more rebounds pre contest than Jawaii did... so however you measure the 'amount of rebounds to be had' there were only 2 rebounders better than him. And even though the NBL is not the NBA, there's no reason that an NBL player couldn't actually make the NBA. I'm not convinced that Jawaii would be an All Star either - but I'd sure like to have him on the Rockets roster at the moment - a big guy who can score the ball! wouldn't that be sweet...
i wasn't "attacking" you, that wasn't my intention, just bringing up points. it was a nothing comment. replace you with us or just disregard it.
It seems like on a few mock draft sites that Nathan Jawai is dropping down in the order.. From late first round to early-mid second round. I guess it is because of the NCAA tournament and it helps raise the stock on some players. So Jawai could very well fall to a mid second round pick.. A nice little development project for a 40ish pick. Another interesting note i saw on one mock draft site is that Joe Ingles is projected to go at late 40's... Anyone know if he openly declared his intentions to join the NBA? He's quite good very similar to brad newly except his longer and more athletic.
Go back and read about Malik Badiane when we drafted him. He sounded like he could turn into the next Dream . I don't mind wasting a 2nd rounder on him but I won't get my hopes up thinking he will contribute.
They're nothing alike. Badiane was always touted as a project with basketball skills that still had to be learnt. He was signed out of a suburban league in Germany a country whose first division basketball is regarded weak. Jawai played for a junior college in the US got hurt early then went back home to play professionally in the Aussie league where he became rookie of the year. Maybe watch him play first and you'll know different No one's suggesting to draft Jawai with a first rounder.
If you read my post you will notice two things. 1. I did not say that these players were alike I said that there were simular things written about them. 2. I didn't say to draft him with a first rounder I said that I would be ok drafting him with a second rounder. The fact that he went from junior college to top rookie in that league says that the league is weak. How many junior college transfers to a D1 college ever become one of the top college players? None that I can think of. I didn't say anything about the way he played because I haven't seen him play and probably never will. The day we draft him I will become a huge fan, until then.. eh.
Most Aussie players get into a top college either through a personal connection or if their families can afford it pay their way through. Bogut got into Utah via the former. Jawai wasn't as lucky and was getting his foot in the door hoping to get recruited. He was developed through the Australian Institute of Sport. The AIS is an internationally renowned olympian nursery/factory. The Chinese government requested their help in updating their sports/training programmes a year or two ago.
He seems like a real bruiser down low. I think he'd be a really high quality pickup, if the scouting reports are right about his attitude and willingness to get better. It's all in Morey's hands, and I trust Morey to make the right decision, as he did last year. But Jawai definitely seems like he can be a quality big man if given the right environment.
Saw Nathan a few times in person this year and nothing jumped out to me and screamed "NBA Calibre" Yes the guy is big and there is the potential to work with but on the 2 occasions he came up against Paul Rogers (Who is in the latter part of his career) his skill around the rim needed a lot of work and his body attitude went downhill quickly. I just can't see him outmuscling any PF's or C's in the NBA I hope it works out for Nathan as the more aussies we get in the nba the more chance we may get more games broadcast.
Chad Ford's take. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...ge=DraftWatch-080520&univLogin02=stateChanged
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2008/06/17/4670_local-sport-news.html http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2008/06/18/4681_local-sport-news.html