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Nasa astronaut goes crazy attempts kidnapping...

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  1. Surfguy

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    The male astronaut involved in this love triangle looks a helluva a lot like good old Gus Grissom IMO.
     
  2. Austin70

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    She got bumped from the Apollo 69 mission and she was pissed.
     
  3. heypartner

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    what? no one has a take on the Colleen Shipman photo I posted in the prev page. Whaddya'll think? Would you hit it? haha
     
  4. MR. MEOWGI

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    Update:

    Charged astronaut returns to Texas

    By RASHA MADKOUR, Associated Press Writer 7 minutes ago

    Hiding her face from the cameras, astronaut Lisa Nowak returned to Texas on Wednesday, a day after being charged in Florida with trying to murder the woman she believed was her romantic rival for a space shuttle pilot's affections.

    A police car met Nowak's plane on the tarmac, and the astronaut, her head covered by a jacket, was escorted down the stairs and into the waiting squad car, then driven away.

    "She looked thin, looked tired," said John Gruttadaurio, a passenger on who was aboard Nowak's flight from Orlando, Fla.

    Nowak was charged in Orlando on Tuesday with attempted first-degree murder, attempted kidnapping and three other crimes stemming from what police described as a love triangle involving a fellow astronaut. She was released on bail but ordered to stay away from the other woman and to wear a monitoring device.

    Early Wednesday, Nowak was escorted through the Orlando airport by police. She boarded the plane before everyone else and sat in the back with chief astronaut Steve Lindsey, remaining extremely quiet, passengers said.

    Her arrest was a remarkable downfall for a woman whose life seemed to be on a perfect trajectory until a few months ago.

    Nowak became an astronaut after winning a series of Navy service awards. She had flown on the shuttle Discovery, and was a mother of three children. She said in a September interview with Ladies Home Journal that her husband, Richard, "works in Mission Control, so he's part of the whole space business, too. And supportive also."

    But there were signs that not everything was right in her life.

    In a NASA interview last year, before her mission aboard Discovery, she spoke about the strain her career placed on her family. She has twin 5-year-old girls and a teenage son.

    "It's a sacrifice for our own personal time and our families and the people around us," she said. "But I do think it's worth it because if you don't explore and take risks and go do all these things, then everything will stay the same."

    In November, a neighbor reported hearing the sounds of dishes being thrown inside Nowak's Houston-area home, and the police came. And weeks ago, Nowak and her husband separated after 19 years.

    The final unraveling came this week after police arrested her for allegedly trying to kidnap a woman she believed was her rival for the affections of astronaut William Oefelein.

    "Perplexed is the word that I'm sticking with," said astronaut Chris Ferguson, who attended Nowak's bail hearing in Orlando with Lindsey.

    Jon Clark, a former NASA flight surgeon who lost his wife, astronaut Laurel Clark, in the Columbia disaster in 2003, told CNN on Wednesday that Nowak supported his family then and he supports her now.

    "She was a mother before she was an astronaut. I mean, she really was into family life, and what's happened in the last few days has just been totally a shock. She is a really wonderful, good, caring person," he said. "You have to find forgiveness and love in your heart to get her through this."

    NASA needs to have a stronger psychological and behavioral health support system for shuttle astronauts, Clark said.

    "They don't have to have any evaluation before or after a mission, and it is only when something catastrophic happens does this ever even come to light," he said.

    Police charged Nowak with attempting to murder Colleen Shipman based on weapons and other items found with Nowak or in her car: pepper spray, a BB-gun, a new steel mallet, knife and rubber tubing.

    "We believe that the items that we found certainly would have caused Colleen Shipman serious bodily injury or death," Orlando Police Sgt. Barb Jones said. That was enough for probable cause, she said. The state, which has the burden of proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt, will decide on the formal charges to pursue.

    Nowak's lawyer, Donald Lykkebak, took issue with the most serious charge against her, saying: "In the imaginations of the police officers, they extend these facts out into areas where the facts can't be supported."

    Nowak posted $25,500 bail Tuesday evening, and NASA put her on a 30-day leave and removed her from mission activities.

    In court Tuesday in Florida, Shipman filed a request for a protective order against Nowak, asking that Nowak be prohibited from going within 500 feet of her. In the handwritten request, she described Nowak as "acquaintance of boyfriend," but did not identify the man. She said Nowak had stalked her for two months.

    Nowak and Oefelein (OH'-fuh-line), who both live in the Houston area, had trained together as astronauts, but never flew into space together. Shipman works at Patrick Air Force Base near Kennedy Space Center.

    Earlier, Nowak was quoted by police as saying she and Oefelein had something "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship."

    Police found a letter in Nowak's car, however, that "indicated how much Mrs. Nowak loved Mr. Oefelein," an arrest affidavit said. And Nowak had copies of e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein.

    Oefelein flew to Kennedy Space Center on Tuesday where he is "voluntarily cooperating with authorities," NASA spokeswoman Jessica Rye said Wednesday. She said the 41-year-old Navy commander wasn't granting interviews to reporters.

    Shipman, a 30-year-old engineer assigned to the 45th Launch Support Squadron, could be reached for comment Tuesday.

    Nowak's home was unlit Tuesday, and her husband could not be located.

    "Personally, Lisa is an extremely caring and dedicated mother to her three children," a statement from Nowak's family said. "Considering both her personal and professional life, these alleged events are completely out of character and have come as a tremendous shock to our family."

    Nowak, accustomed to wearing astronaut diapers during the space shuttle's launch and return to Earth, wore them on the drive from Houston so she would not have to make bathroom stops as she raced to confront Shipman at the Orlando International Airport, police said.

    Then, according to police, Nowak donned a wig and trench coat, boarded an airport shuttle bus with Shipman and followed her to her car. Crying, Nowak sprayed a chemical into the car. Shipman drove to a parking lot booth for help.

    A police affidavit made public Tuesday said Nowak had "stealthily followed the victim while in disguise and possessed multiple deadly weapons."

    The affidavit said the circumstances of the case "create a well-founded fear" and gave investigators "probable cause to believe that Mrs. Nowak intended to murder Ms. Shipman."

    Lykkebak said that Nowak only wanted to talk to Shipman. Asked about the weapons, he said, "You can sit and speculate all day."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070207/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested;_ylt=Atgo7BWUJ_y13KWmrQ9Ighis0NUE
     
  5. Smokey

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    Two thoughts:

    1) Did anyone see Larry King last night? I love when stuff like this goes down and they have friends on. This is how it went down:

    Friend: I've known Lisa and her family all my life. This is completely out of character. She is a good person.
    Larry: Will you contact her?
    Friend: I haven't spoken to her in years and have lost contact with her family. But Larry this is a private family matter so no.

    I'm not kidding you. I was expecting Baby Booey to come out of the guys mouth.

    2) Is Shipman getting a bad deal? NASA is coddling Nowak...which wouldn't be a bad thing except Shipman works for NASA too! Stalking for two months and using government computers to access info on Shipman and all NASA does is give Nowak a 30 day leave. Lets not forget the airport incident either.
     
  6. Faos

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    I don't see how they can make the attempted murder charges stick. Kidnapping, maybe.
     
  7. updawg

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    they will see how the criminal charges play out. I'm sure there will be more adminstrative acts against her from NASA, but they have to let the legal stuff go first, until theres enough to fire her cleanly.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    Since they are all military [I know the guy is]
    Isn't there something about Not Fratinizing with each other or something
    esp between a superior rank and a lower rank

    I was wondering if this would be a Court Martial thing?

    Does this aid Shipman on her own mission to space
    a payoff by Nasa ;)

    Rocket River
     
  9. Sishir Chang

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    ^ I'm not sure Lisa Nowak is military. I haven't seen a rank associated with her name but could've missed it.
     
  10. heypartner

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    It's not clear that Shipman is active military, although in her picture she's clearly ROTC.

    Nowak is the senior officer (Navy Captain vs Commander), but fraternization is generally within the chain of command. So, screwing Colleen is probably ok. However, I'd been willing to bet that Astronuats are not allowed to date each other, whether as a written rule or not.
     
  11. oomp

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    She's a Navy Captain.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    she's already beent to space.


    anyway, what is in the water in clear lake?
     
  14. MadMax

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    ok..what ever future she had in the space program will likely be lost.

    that better? :D
     
  15. A-Train

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    OK, so who would you cast in the upcoming TV movie about this story?

    I was thinking Patricia Richardson (Jill Taylor on Home Improvement) as Nowak and David Schwimmer as William Oefelein...
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    The first article in this thread says,

    So, I don't think there is any problem there.
     
  17. JoeBarelyCares

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    Umm, Clear Lake is an oxymoron.
     
  18. RocketMan Tex

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    Not only would I NOT HIT IT....I also think that these three yahoos are in the running for the ugliest love triangle award for the decade!
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    Completely agree. This was a political move to even more sensationalize this event. What the hell is wrong with Florida?
     
  20. rrj_gamz

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    I was watching Larry King last night and they showed the picture of the victim...eh...Not my taste, but for Forest, sure...

    I don't think the murder thing will stick or anything else...How do you prove anything, such as intent...I think insanity is the best defense...
     

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