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Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election'

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  1. Chump

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    Nacey Reagan is a flip-flopper! a waffle!

    cuz we all know that changing your view or opinion on something when the facts have changed is a weakness

    I perfer my leader to be steadfast and stick to a erronous position
     
  2. Mulder

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    My post about her not being to the left was as a result of a question you posed.
     
  3. mrpaige

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    If she's anything like me, C. is certainly a possible option since GWB's actions certainly doesn't seem to be in favor of limited government in any form since taking office, along with D.
     
  4. giddyup

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    The time for such a shift would have been before we sacked Baghdad.... if with certainty WMDs were known for certain not to be in Iraq.

    Even Kerry is not for pulling out of Iraq now is he? So what exactly are you trying to say?
     
  5. giddyup

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    I would imagine that those were radical leftists. There is still plenty of room on the left... inside of that orbit!
     
  6. Mulder

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    :rolleyes:

    edit: On second thought let me throw more than that in the mix.

    Would you admit that Ronald Reagan stating, if he were alive, that he was not supporting a Bush re-election, would be significant? I would say that it was...

    Reagan stated that in his youth he was a "hemophiliac liberal". since he has changed his political beliefs, whether Nancy was a Republican prior to meeting her husband is moot. Since it has since been established that she DID endorse Bush in 2000, your point about what her politics were is equally pointless.
    Face it, this is an ugly situation for the President and there is no way to dance around it.
     
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  7. 4chuckie

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    So when is Kerry going to address his wife's past? Seems like to me if Reagan's kids being against Bush is newsworthy that a feature on how Heinze-Kerry used to be married to an ultra conservative republican before should be news too. Are you really sure she supports her husband?

    (note to all turn your sarcasm detectors up here, it was a joke)
     
  8. giddyup

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    <b>Originally posted by Mulder

    edit: On second thought let me throw more than that in the mix.

    Would you admit that Ronald Reagan stating, if he were alive, that he was not supporting a Bush re-election, would be significant? I would say that it was...</b>

    Absolutely. She's not the former president of the US though.

    <b>Reagan stated that in his youth he was a "hemophiliac liberal". since he has changed his political beliefs, whether Nancy was a Republican prior to meeting her husband is moot. Since it has since been established that she DID endorse Bush in 2000, your point about what her politics were is equally pointless.
    Face it, this is an ugly situation for the President and there is no way to dance around it.</b>

    Many people change their politics as they age. My point about what her politics were is not moot. It is essential because it makes this announcement a news item or a no-news item.

    It's not pretty but it ain't all that big a deal. Ronald Reagan was the icon not Nancy. Nancy's only iconic status was as a devoted wife and for that her wishes need be respected.
     
  9. giddyup

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    Interesting Development:

    Breaking from NewsMax.com

    In a statement made Monday to NewsMax.com, <b>Nancy Reagan said she is strongly endorsing George W. Bush's re-election and categorically denied a published Internet report that said she was not backing his run for a second term.</b>

    Joanne Drake, the chief of staff for former President Reagan's office in Los Angeles, said in a statement on behalf of the former first lady, "Mrs. Reagan supports President Bush's re-election 150 percent."

    Published reports have suggested that Mrs. Reagan was unhappy with President Bush for his strong opposition to stem cell research, which Mrs. Reagan has supported after her husband's long bout with Alzheimer's disease.

    Mrs. Reagan's son Ron spoke last week at the Democratic National Convention. Young Ron indicated his mother supported his speech and that she was unhappy with the Bush administration for opposing embryonic stem cell research.

    Ron Reagan also gave an implicit endorsement to the Kerry-Edwards ticket, which supports that type of stem cell research, when he told his national audience, "Whatever else you do come Nov. 2, I urge you, please, cast a vote for embryonic stem cell research."

    Drake, however, noted in her statement on behalf of Mrs. Reagan, "I think everyone would understand that while she may not agree with the president on every issue, this campaign is more than just one issue - it's about leadership and she believes that President Bush is the right man for the job."

    Mrs. Reagan's statement came on the heels of a July 30th report published on the Web site capitolhillblue.com.

    The Web report, headlined "Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election,'" quoted a "spokesman" for Mrs. Reagan as telling the site, "Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush's re-election and neither do most members of the President's family."

    Drake also denied the Web site's claim that Mrs. Reagan told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with the party or President Bush, or that she "went ballistic" when she learned the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads that used Reagan's photos and speeches in an effort to show he supported Bush and his re-election.

    Capitolhillblue.com also claimed that Mrs. Reagan personally called Republican Party Chief Ed Gillespie to demand the ads be destroyed.

    "The quote that appeared in Capitol Hill Blue is incorrect," Drake said on behalf of Mrs. Reagan. "Further, I do not know where the information came from [indicating that] the former first lady went ballistic when she read the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads. She did not speak to Ed Gillespie on the telephone and demand the ads be destroyed..."

    By endorsing President Bush's re-election, Mrs. Reagan joins President Reagan's eldest son Michael, who had already announced his strong support for the president. Michael will also be speaking at the upcoming GOP convention in New York.
     
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    we're gonna have to wait and see what she really said as neither website involved in this story is unbiased or mainstream
     
  13. SpaceCity

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    Sounds like Cheney sent a team of "Convincers" over to the Reagan household for a little chat with the Mrs.

    :eek:
     
  14. mc mark

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    Or the junta is putting out disinformation...
     
  15. IROC it

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    I think she's just basically saying, "Let my husband and his image rest in peace."

    He was ill for several years, and she'd rather not give "full endorsement" to anyone simply by his image being used.

    Goodness knows, either side could use Ronnie Raygun's image to promote their own "Americana"...

    He was a Democrat first, was he not?

    THIS is HUGE!!!. This is not. Learn the difference. I think we have some misinformation issues, and possibly some "creative license" in the initial report.

    She most likely just asked politely that they not use her hubby's image and words, out of respect for the dead, and his family.

    :( Sad people.
     
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    Mr. Rove: "Unleash the hounds.."
     
  17. ROXRAN

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    The hedonistic neo-demos surly are!...
     
  18. basso

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    looks like the whole thing was a non-story:

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    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/8/2/161745.shtml

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    Exclusive: Nancy Reagan Strongly Endorses President Bush

    Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
    Tuesday, Aug. 3, 2004

    In a statement made Monday to NewsMax.com, Nancy Reagan said she was strongly endorsing President Bush's re-election and rejected a published Internet report that she was not backing his run for a second term.

    Joanne Drake, the chief of staff for former President Ronald Reagan’s office in Los Angeles, said in a statement on behalf of the former first lady, “Mrs. Reagan supports President Bush’s re-election 150 percent.”

    Published reports have suggested that Mrs. Reagan was unhappy with President Bush for his opposition to taxpayer-funded stem cell research that kills human embryos, which Mrs. Reagan has supported after her husband’s long bout with Alzheimer’s disease.

    Mrs. Reagan’s son Ron spoke last week at the Democratic National Convention. He indicated that his mother supported his speech and that she was unhappy with the Bush administration for its stand on embryonic stem cell research.

    Ron Reagan gave an implicit endorsement to the Kerry-Edwards ticket, which supports taxpayer funding of that type of research, when he told his national audience, “Whatever else you do come Nov. 2, I urge you, please, cast a vote for embryonic stem cell research.”

    Drake, however, noted in her statement on behalf of Mrs. Reagan, “I think everyone would understand that while she may not agree with the president on every issue, this campaign is more than just one issue – it’s about leadership, and she believes that President Bush is the right man for the job.”

    Mrs. Reagan’s statement came on the heels of a report published Friday on the Web site capitolhillblue.com.

    That story, headlined "Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election,'" quoted a “spokesman” for Mrs. Reagan as telling the site, "Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush’s re-election and neither do most members of the President’s family."

    Drake also denied the Web site’s claim that Mrs. Reagan told Republican leaders she wanted nothing to do with the party or President Bush, or that she "went ballistic" when she learned the Bush campaign was test marketing ads that used Reagan’s photos and speeches in an effort to show he supported Bush and his re-election.

    Capitolhillblue.com also claimed that Mrs. Reagan called Republican Party chief Ed Gillespie to demand the ads be destroyed.

    “The quote that appeared in Capitol Hill Blue is incorrect,” Drake said on behalf of Mrs. Reagan. “Further, I do not know where the information came from [indicating that] the former first lady went ballistic when she read the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads. She did not speak to Ed Gillespie on the telephone and demand the ads be destroyed ...”

    By endorsing President Bush’s re-election, Mrs. Reagan joins President Reagan’ elder son, Michael, who has already announced his strong support for the president's re-election.
     
  19. mc mark

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    Waiting for someone other than NewsMax to validate the story.
     
  20. RocketMan Tex

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    Don't hold your breath. You will turn blue.
     

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